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post #2671 of 3264
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Originally Posted by DivergeUnify View Post

Do any owners have any ideas on a way to perma angle the drivers towards the ear, besides maybe glue? 

 

Do you think angle drivers make a difference to sound? I am not sure or making any statement to deny, I am asking but it appear to me it's more marketing then anything. What you say guys? Is there a difference in sound?

post #2672 of 3264
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Originally Posted by whoelse View Post

 

Do you think angle drivers make a difference to sound? I am not sure or making any statement to deny, I am asking but it appear to me it's more marketing then anything. What you say guys? Is there a difference in sound?

Funny this topic came up! I was listening to my 325is's last night (also did this when I had the 80i's) and I really like the way they sound with the drivers angled out just a little on the back part of the ears. Through my experience with this is, I heard a bit of a wider sound stage, the bass had a bit more punch and it definitely sounded more like  I was listening to a set of speakers in a room, more airy. I would like to know what other people heard who have tried this, and their opinions..

 

Also I would to figure out a way to mount a small (ratcheting) device on the rod's that will connect to the rod blocks to keep the angel position. Any thoughts on this attempt?

post #2673 of 3264
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Originally Posted by whoelse View Post

 

Do you think angle drivers make a difference to sound? I am not sure or making any statement to deny, I am asking but it appear to me it's more marketing then anything. What you say guys? Is there a difference in sound?

I just feel that when i press the front side of the driver inwards it  creates a fuller sound.  Pushing the whole driver closer makes the sound fuller overall, but with added ear stress, where as frontside pressure doesn't do so.  

post #2674 of 3264
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Originally Posted by DivergeUnify View Post

I just feel that when i press the front side of the driver inwards it  creates a fuller sound.  Pushing the whole driver closer makes the sound fuller overall, but with added ear stress, where as front side pressure doesn't do so.  

What I meant was, just pulling the back of the cushions/drivers off the back of the ear slightly, so the sound hits the cartilage of the ear then the sound reflects into the ear canal. Not applying any pressure. (Holding the cups in the same angle that your ears are angled on your head).


Edited by joseph69 - 1/14/13 at 4:16pm
post #2675 of 3264

Couple of ideas, have not tried them but...

 

1. Tightly wrap electrical tape around the post and the carriers. Would still flex I think, depending on how tight you could get it.

 

2. Drill and tap the carrier to put in a set screw. Not sure if the carrier would like this too much, might tend to either strip the screw or crack the carrier if not drill right or tightened to much.

 

3. Install collars with set screws on the posts on top and bottom of the carriers with rubber gasket between the collar and carrier. Clamp the collars to apply pressure to the carrier and then tighten the set screws.

 

4. Epoxy. bigsmile_face.gif

 

5. Make/mod your own headband.

 

There are also mods for the shape of the headband.  Google it.

post #2676 of 3264
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Originally Posted by bearFNF View Post

Couple of ideas, have not tried them but...

 

1. Tightly wrap electrical tape around the post and the carriers. Would still flex I think, depending on how tight you could get it.

 

2. Drill and tap the carrier to put in a set screw. Not sure if the carrier would like this too much, might tend to either strip the screw or crack the carrier if not drill right or tightened to much.

 

3. Install collars with set screws on the posts on top and bottom of the carriers with rubber gasket between the collar and carrier. Clamp the collars to apply pressure to the carrier and then tighten the set screws.

 

4. Epoxy. bigsmile_face.gif

 

5. Make/mod your own headband.

 

There are also mods for the shape of the headband.  Google it.

You may have read my post on the (shaft collars) with O rings to protect the rod blocks from being worn by the steel collars, which I use to lock the height adjustment of the drivers, so they don't slide down. (There is no reason at all to have collars on the bottom side of the rod blocks, use them only on top, to prevent the drivers from sliding down).

post #2677 of 3264

I was thinking if you had them top and bottom and clamped them tight on the gaskets they would help keep the post from rotating, also.  You would need a good amount of clamp force for this to work.

Or just thought of this:

You could use VHB (Very High Bond) double sided tape on both side of a gasket that would stick it to the clamp and shaft collar. 

With this method you might only need the shaft collar on top.

 

Edit:

And yes I do remmeber reading something about the shaft collars...


Edited by bearFNF - 1/14/13 at 4:35pm
post #2678 of 3264
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Originally Posted by DivergeUnify View Post

I just feel that when i press the front side of the driver inwards it  creates a fuller sound.  Pushing the whole driver closer makes the sound fuller overall, but with added ear stress, where as frontside pressure doesn't do so.  

Could it be better seal than the angle? If the position is poor, your ear might be blocking some sound? I usually adjust the position and angle but for better fit and seal, the do sound better but I personally do not think it was the angle.

post #2679 of 3264
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Originally Posted by bearFNF View Post

I was thinking if you had them top and bottom and clamped them tight on the gaskets they would help keep the post from rotating, also.  You would need a good amount of clamp force for this to work.

Or just thought of this:

You could use VHB (Very High Bond) double sided tape on both side of a gasket that would stick it to the clamp and shaft collar. 

With this method you might only need the shaft collar on top.

 

Edit:

And yes I do remmeber reading something about the shaft collars...

I'm sorry , I misunderstood your point in using the collars on both sides (to lock the rod against the block) good idea. Right now I'm looking into some kind of small,very small ratcheting devices that may be available to maybe prototype this on something then apply it the the rods/blocks.

 

Also, I drilled out the blocks on the 80's I used to have and put a set screw through them to lock the rods (before I found the shaft collars in my box of stuff for my R/C cars) but the plastic was too soft and it eventually stripped the thread in the plastic.

post #2680 of 3264

No problem.  

 

I actually think the VHB tape might work pretty well.  it would still allow you to adjust the blocks but then lock them down with the set screw.

 

Yes, I thoguht the plastic might be too soft.

post #2681 of 3264

Hello! I'm a new fellow 325 owner now. Very excited! :D

I have a set of 80's, which I love! And use with my ipod, for on the go, and I've decided to keep the 325's for home use. 

So... I have a few queries, as I am a huge fan of great sound, I don't know much about it all. And want to get the most out of my 325's (I have been a little disappointed so far, but I'm certain this is cause of my setup) So I'm hoping you guys can help me!

1) I have an old sony cd player with 6.35mm plug in. Which I figured would benefit the headphones, but I still get a bit of distort. Which I figure is because the cd player is pretty old now, and as far as stack cd player go, seems pretty basic. So my question is, would I benefit from getting a specific amp to plug the cd player through? If so, what would be a good starting point?

2) I occasionally (well, regularly of late!) use my laptop/ipod for listening, when I'm feeling like jumping from song to song, is there anything I can do to improve the output from that? As it sounds pretty horrible. All my mp3's are 256/320/lossless. I have read on hear something about things you can do, but I really don't understand! So if someone could explain, that would be lovely! :)

Thank you for you help, in advance! I am new to the technical side, so if you could help by keeping the answers laymen's, and just bare with me, that would be great!

Thank you! :D

post #2682 of 3264
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Originally Posted by scaryfirelady View Post

Hello! I'm a new fellow 325 owner now. Very excited! :D

I have a set of 80's, which I love! And use with my ipod, for on the go, and I've decided to keep the 325's for home use. 

So... I have a few queries, as I am a huge fan of great sound, I don't know much about it all. And want to get the most out of my 325's (I have been a little disappointed so far, but I'm certain this is cause of my setup) So I'm hoping you guys can help me!

1) I have an old sony cd player with 6.35mm plug in. Which I figured would benefit the headphones, but I still get a bit of distort. Which I figure is because the cd player is pretty old now, and as far as stack cd player go, seems pretty basic. So my question is, would I benefit from getting a specific amp to plug the cd player through? If so, what would be a good starting point?

2) I occasionally (well, regularly of late!) use my laptop/ipod for listening, when I'm feeling like jumping from song to song, is there anything I can do to improve the output from that? As it sounds pretty horrible. All my mp3's are 256/320/lossless. I have read on hear something about things you can do, but I really don't understand! So if someone could explain, that would be lovely! :)

Thank you for you help, in advance! I am new to the technical side, so if you could help by keeping the answers laymen's, and just bare with me, that would be great!

Thank you! :D

What model Sony do you own?

What kind of distortion are you getting and when?

As far as amping your computer I would not be able to direct you because I only use my 325is with my home stereo equipment.

What are disappointed with about the 325is

s, that you where not disappointed with the 80i's?

post #2683 of 3264

I will get the model of the cd player when I get home. In the mean time, I shall try to explain the problems as best as I can. I feel like the sound coming from the 325's, just is not as quality as the 80's, but this, to me, feels like its because the 325's are picking up more indecresancies, due to the lack of quality set up. Could this be right?

I get it more when playing through my laptop/ipod, which is why i switched to the cd player, but the actual sound being carried from the cd player is odd, it just doesnt sound as sweet. 

Does any of this make sense!?! Sorry about my lack of knowledge! Although, I really want to learn about all of this stuff! 

Thanks again :)

post #2684 of 3264

My first Grado was a SR80 and shortly afterwards I bought the SR325i. I think it took me a while to get used to them because they are more direct and have more bass and highs. I had the feeling in the beginning the music came in too many parts to my ears, whereas with the SR80 I was easily into the music and still enjoying details. After some time I really liked and still like the SR325i: I started to appreciate their directness, the improved bass and their clarity. For vocals/ singer-songwriter stuff they are still my favorite headphone. The period from their arrival and the first strange sessions to the following enthusiasm is for me a practical example for (brain) burn inn. So, maybe you need to give yourself some time? 

For me, my ipod (touch 4th generation) is sufficient to drive the SR325i without problems. If they really do strange things there - it could be they are defect. Maybe you can try to describe more precisely what sounds odd?

post #2685 of 3264

Okay, firstly, thank you for your help :) Just want to get the most out of them. And I guess learning is the best way!


Right, my cd player is a sony XA2ES

I am currently sitting with both headphones, comparing with a cd I know well (tina Dico with the danish national orchestra, so plenty varying sounds happening!)  I will take back what I said about the 80's being better. Its more of a matter (like maddin said) of probably being used to the 80's. I think the problem I'm experiencing just now is the 325's are quite bassy, which is good, but as a result, it feels like everything is mashed together (it's lacking clarity and definition between the instruments) Could this be more to do with the cd player? It feels like it could be.

 

I'm sorry I'm not being very clear!

 

Best thing I can describe is probably her voice, it feels like the bass levels are up on her voice, so it doesn't feel rounded.

Hehe, sorry about random updates, just listed to another bit, and I definitely think the base is up too much. 

Can this cause my clarity issues? If so, how can I resolve this?

Thanks again guys! :D

P.s Maddin, I love your ratty!! So cute!! :D


Edited by scaryfirelady - 1/17/13 at 1:58pm
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