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post #16 of 37
2/28/07 at 1:10am
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Originally Posted by HighLife View Post
No, i edited it out...i read it wrong.

You have exactly what most people have...you have a Modem/Router from the ISp, then you have another Router (netgear) correct?

If so, re read my post above...it will explain.
Nope

The modem/router i got from my ISP is pap, never used it ever, i have my own 3com one, and got the netgear one when i got the DS Lite because the DS has wifi compatibility issues with the 3com.

Basically - 3com is perfect with everything BUT the wii and DS

Netgear is fine for wii and DS but useless at everything else.
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post #17 of 37
2/28/07 at 1:11am
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Originally Posted by c0mfortably_numb View Post
Yea in my edit above, I figured out what you where saying sorry took a few posts. 3 Com works great, switch out to Netgear slow....The only thing I can really recommend is to check what version frimware you are using, and check here at Netgears site and see if it is up to date.
Ya, when i re read the first post, it seems like he had 2 wireless routers...plus a modem.

The Netgear is a normal wireless router....the 3Comm must be from his ISP, which is a wireless router and modem in one.

I think we got it now, i think its the problem of double NAT and or DHCP issues, cause both devices are setup to assign IP's.
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post #18 of 37
2/28/07 at 1:13am
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Originally Posted by raymondlin View Post
Nope

The modem/router i got from my ISP is pap, never used it ever, i have my own 3com one, and got the netgear one when i got the DS Lite because the DS has wifi compatibility issues with the 3com.

Basically - 3com is perfect with everything BUT the wii and DS

Netgear is fine for wii and DS but useless at everything else.
You using a bought modem/router? How are you logged into the network with that? Im guessing it does PAP for you...now with this, does it handle DHCP or does the Netgear? Which firewall are you using?

There can be only 1....which means, only 1 router can handle DHCP, only 1 router can be using its firewall. Now, this will work, but it will not be a solid connection..cause 2 things are doing the job that only 1 should be doing.
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post #19 of 37
2/28/07 at 1:28am
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The isp provide everyone with all our login details, i can put it in any router/modem bought off the shops.

and

I only use 1 router at a time, the other one is un powered, un plugged.
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post #20 of 37
2/28/07 at 1:37am
ok, which are you using now?
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post #21 of 37
2/28/07 at 1:40am
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Originally Posted by HighLife View Post
ok, which are you using now?
3com
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post #22 of 37
2/28/07 at 1:44am
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Originally Posted by raymondlin View Post
3com
and whats the name of the modem? Or is the 3comm a modem/router?
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post #23 of 37
2/28/07 at 1:51am
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3com 3CRWDR100A-72
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post #24 of 37
2/28/07 at 1:54am
Is the 3comm both a router and modem, or is it 2 different devices?

Sorry to drag this out, but its still kinda confusing how you saying it...Netgear is just a router, your 3comm is a router/modem...for you to use the Netgear you need to connect it to the 3comm...if the 3comm is a router also, then which is doing DHCP? Which firewall?

Do you see what im getting at here? If you 3comm is a modem and router and you want to use the Netgear, then you need to change the 3comm to bridged mode, this will let you log on with your password through the netgear, then the netgear is handling DHCP and you using the netgears Firewall...

If not, you will be using the NAT on both devices
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post #25 of 37
2/28/07 at 1:59am
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no no no no no no

They are BOTH all in 1 modem/router/Wap devices.

like i said before, I take out one and put in the other, just plug in the phone line, cat5 and power.

No need to input any passwords, no need to put in ANYTHING WHAT SO EVER, it is all put into the memory inside the router. And i just plug it in and off it goes, wifi, cat 5 and everything.......................

They both do EXACTLY the same thing, its just the netgear is SLOW !!!!

Would you like a photograph or something?
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post #26 of 37
2/28/07 at 2:02am
ok, gotcha...how you explained is weird though, you should change it to say that the Netgear and the 3comm are BOTH Modem/routers. The way it sounds is that you have 2 wireless routers and then of course a modem to connect. Its just worded kinda weird i guess.

Now, the reason is that the NAT on the 3comm is less to run then the Netgear....are they both running WEP? If the 3comm is older, which im guessing it is..it could be running a NAT thats less to run then what the Netgear runs. Like if you use WEP and WPA, one is a high level, so it does slow down the router quite a bit. This in general slows everything else down.
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post #27 of 37
2/28/07 at 2:08am
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Originally Posted by HighLife View Post
ok, gotcha...how you explained is weird though, you should change it to say that the Netgear and the 3comm are BOTH Modem/routers. The way it sounds is that you have 2 wireless routers and then of course a modem to connect. Its just worded kinda weird i guess.

Now, the reason is that the NAT on the 3comm is less to run then the Netgear....are they both running WEP? If the 3comm is older, which im guessing it is..it could be running a NAT thats less to run then what the Netgear runs. Like if you use WEP and WPA, one is a high level, so it does slow down the router quite a bit. This in general slows everything else down.
Then how do you explain the intermittent disconnection ? Downloads gets cut off frequently, webpages stops loading........but MSN keeps working.

A new NAP can't cut things off, and even if it slows it down, it won't make it feel like the computer is sluggish.

I thought my original post was perfectly clear

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I have 2 wireless routers, an old 3com one and a Netgear DG834G v3 router.
I don't see how one can think one is a modem, the other is a wap, when the following sentence says i got the netgear for the Wii and DS because the 3com isn't compatible (compatible as in it has the capability but not the compatibility).

Sorry if it wasn't clear before.
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post #28 of 37
2/28/07 at 2:16am
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Originally Posted by raymondlin View Post
Then how do you explain the intermittent disconnection ? Downloads gets cut off frequently, webpages stops loading........but MSN keeps working.

A new NAP can't cut things off, and even if it slows it down, it won't make it feel like the computer is sluggish.

I thought my original post was perfectly clear



I don't see how one can think one is a modem, the other is a wap, when the following sentence says i got the netgear for the Wii and DS.
Disconnects with the netgear or the 3comm? Have you flashed the lastest firmware? I think someone posted about that...When you lose connection, does it turn off or reset?

Cause you said one is a modem and one is a WAP (Wireless access point). That leads to think that its 2 different devices, since there was only 2 devices you mentioned.

How i see it now is that both of them are modems/routers...but the 3comm is faster, however it doesnt work with you Wii. The Netgear is slower and it works with the Wii. Am i correct?
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post #29 of 37
2/28/07 at 2:22am
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Disconnects with the netgear or the 3comm? Have you flashed the lastest firmware? I think someone posted about that...When you lose connection, does it turn off or reset?

Cause you said one is a modem and one is a WAP (Wireless access point). That leads to think that its 2 different devices, since there was only 2 devices you mentioned.

How i see it now is that both of them are modems/routers...but the 3comm is faster, however it doesnt work with you Wii. The Netgear works, but its slower and it works with the Wii. Am i correct?

If so, then you might be able to get away with using both...thats if you can disable the modem function and DHCP functions on the netgear. Then you be connect via Cat 5 into your 3comm, which is faster....then you will have the Netgear just for the wii and whatever else..

I said BOTH does exactly the SAME thing, that implies they are both modem, router and wap at the same time.

I also said the 3com is perfect EXCEPT using the wii and DS (I can connect laptops to it find via Wifi). That implies it doesn't drop off its connection, because its "perfect".....meaning its the Netgear that drops off the connection.

I've also stated that i simply unplug one and replace with the other, would you like some photographs again ?
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post #30 of 37
2/28/07 at 2:24am
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Originally Posted by raymondlin View Post
I said BOTH does exactly the SAME thing, that implies they are both modem, router and wap at the same time.

I also said the 3com is perfect EXCEPT using the wii and DS (I can connect laptops to it find via Wifi). That implies it doesn't drop off its connection, because its "perfect".....meaning its the Netgear that drops off the connection.

I've also stated that i simply unplug one and replace with the other, would you like some photographs again ?
Nope, dont need pic..just need to make sure its what i think it is. If both do the exact samething then i would call you ISP....if only 1 is doing it then check online for firmware updates. Thats about it, cause normally people use the modem from their ISP and buy a router to share the connection. I really dislike the modem/router combo as its not as robust as a dedicated router.
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