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post #16 of 115
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Maybe, as long as its 1G. Its line-out is the most valuable aspect.
True. The 1G nano use a Wolfson WM8975 DAC, which is known to be the one of the best ones out there.
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But honestly krmathis, have you ever used/recommended anything not by Apple?
::Blush::
Not when it comes to portable players and computer audio. Because I have really great experience with Apple products, and see no reason not to inform others about their products.

But I use and recommend products from other manufacturers as well. Like Stax, Electrocompaniet, Ray Samuels, Westone, Doxa, ...
post #17 of 115
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Originally Posted by srozzman View Post
humph... looks like you guys forgot the Creative Zen V and V Plus
Surprised theres not much interest in them?
post #18 of 115
the thing about the Creative Zen V(+) is there's nothing special about them. They're small, and easy to use, but they don't really have any advantages to other players available, besides the fact it's available in 8gb.
post #19 of 115
SAMSUNG upcoming YP-K3(2GB, 4GB and 8GB) and YP-T9(2GB, 4GB).
post #20 of 115
i thought the zens sounded pretty good... maybe i need new ears...
post #21 of 115

Samsung

I have a Samsung YP-Z5 which is now old? and it has very good SQ. I would have a look at new Samsung products as well as some of the Cowon players like the D2 or F2. I have Cowon products and they have excellent SQ. I have a Creative ZVM and it does not compare SQ wise to the Samsung or Cowon products.
post #22 of 115
I've never compared them directly, but I have a Samsung YP-U2. While it sounds ok, I think I prefered my previous ZVM. Better than them all was my 1st Gen Shuffle. Before it died as it common problem with them.
post #23 of 115
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Originally Posted by 3X0 View Post
+ Bigger screen
But clix2 has 30fps AMOLED (which is a much better screen).

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+ Battery life (I heard the Clix2 is rated for 25 hours or so)
But comes with ~40% more weight than clix2.

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+ UMS/MSC Protocol (Works with all operating systems)
...clix2 can switch b/w UMS and MTP within the firmware.

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+ More mW from the headphone-out
You are right on this one. D2 has 37mW and clix2 has only 17mW on each channel...but does that really matter that much on SQ? ...unless you are using a 64ohms+ earphone - but I will rather recommend you use an amp if you did use a 64ohms+ earphone.

If you ask me, the only + side (that affect SQ) D2 has over clix2 is the ability to play FLAC, but since the OP is asking for a flash based DAP, using FLAC will not be the best option due to the limitation of capacity.
post #24 of 115
Samsung YP-T9 is pretty much the best out there right now.
post #25 of 115
Will the clix2 natively support Ogg Vorbis (including gapless support)?
post #26 of 115
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Samsung YP-T9 is pretty much the best out there right now.
You got it smack down!!!

I have the D2, VibeZ, 1st gen shuffle, 1st gen Clix, meizu m6, zvm and the Samsung Z5 among others. My 8gb T9 is equal to the Z5 but these two edges the rest. The T9 is easier to use than the Z5 and has better capacity, although I like the looks of the Z5 better. I am still looking forward to the SQ of the Kenwood 10gb which I might get this March together with some sweet Westone 3s. Something tells me the Kenwood would come out stronger based to user reviews. We'll see. If it's less stellar than the sammy flash units, you'll see them on the for sale forums by the end of March . Comparisons done with the e500.
post #27 of 115
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Originally Posted by bloodandsoil View Post
Will the clix2 natively support Ogg Vorbis (including gapless support)?
Yes and no. AFAIK gapless is not implemented on clix2 yet.
post #28 of 115
The T9 is alright (I owned one previously) as the player itself rocks. The one bad thing, and this is a really bad thing, is that the transfer speed is slooooowwwww. I used a usb 2.0 and it get's about 1.7-3.4 mbps MAX.

Idk slow transfer speeds just irk me (one thing apple did right!)
post #29 of 115
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...clix2 can switch b/w UMS and MTP within the firmware.
Oh yeah, since it's the U20.. the U10 was pretty much the same. They won't have a botched MTP-only import version this time around, will they? I'm crossing my fingers for "no."

I do agree the Clix2 looks to be a pretty impressive player. For a while, I thought the original clix was the best flash player there was.
post #30 of 115
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...They won't have a botched MTP-only import version this time around, will they? I'm crossing my fingers for "no.".
No, all U20 (clix2) will come with a firmware that capable of switching the transfer protocols (MSC/MTP) with in the (one and only) firmware, you don't even need a PC for that. However, switching MSC-MTP will require a formating, so you still need a PC to sync back all the songs (or drag and drop if you want). Another improvement will be how the music is organized. User can selected whether they want their clix2 to organize music base on database (like clix1) or file-tree.
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