Any prove cables make a difference? - Page 6  

It seems then that you are not really asking for proof, you are just collecting anecdotical experiences/opinions from online communities.

Here's a link you might be interested in:
http://sound.westhost.com/cables-p3.htm#interconnects

And the following are related to a comparison of speaker leads of different topologies (cross coaxial vs. standard zip cord). Have posted them before, but here they go anyway:

http://sound.westhost.com/cables-p2.htm#spkr-leads
http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/...ZipCord-p1.htm

I already told you in this post the claim I will give you on the subject. (Hint: Notice the word believe in that post). I won't make claims beyond a belief statement on this subject.

Unless you go deaf first. Don't turn the volume up just to hear the differences.

I don't, but I know there are several threads here on Headfi describing in detail several comparisons of interconnects, headphone cables, and even power cords, which seems very related to what you are looking for.

reano...

...as rsaavedra already stated, you won't get any proof from people on this forum. And to be honest, I doubt your honest interest anyway -- too much bias towards posts from the skeptics corner. And first of all: your post inflation. You're trying too hard to seize this thread with -- as I perceive it -- inquisition-like questions masked with a matey manner.

So I renounce to answer your «personal» question, just out of my intuitive lack of sympathy for your kind of self-presentation. Personally I have no proof to offer anyway. My own blind-test success will tell nothing to the matter.
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First off, I'd just like to agree with JaZZ below because not many people can offer their own "proof" and I definitely fall in this category.

On to the questions.

All tests were done using my personal setup 320Kbps MP3 of original Eagles - Hotel California -> Maxed AlienDAC -> INTERCONNECT -> Maxed SOHA -> HD600 with Cardas cable.

The INTERCONNECT was switched back and forth and I listened to the same song like 20 times by now, switching cables with every time.

The testing was not witnessed, so I guess you'll just have to take my word for it that it was done with no bias toward any configuration and all ego set aside.

I have 3 cables on my desk, all were made by me and all are around the same 40cm length:
1) Silver Plated Copper 6 x 24AWG (3 signal - 3 ground) in flat braid
2) Belden 89259 22AWG bare copper with 95% copper sheild
3) Modified VenHaus using 24AWG 99.99% pure silver with 100% unbleached cotton as dialect instead of teflon tube.

After listening to these extensively, I had the VenHaus in there for about a month, the Belden for about 2 weeks and I just made the SPC (hasn't burned in yet), I can definitely tell the difference between every cable.

Just not to start some flame war, this is purely in my oppinion, tested by my ears alone and in my setup.

I thouht the Belden 89259 had a very nice sound, slightly warmer than the rest, but the detail was still there and nothing was lost in comparison to the rest. Of course, the cable is much stiffer, but we're talking purely sound quality wise here.

The VenHaus cable has been my long time favorite (about 2 months or so) and did everything very well. It wasn't as warm as the 89259, but the highs were clearer and I enjoyed the slightly punchier bass hits. Generally a very clean and detailed cable. By "clean" I mean simply that you can really hear the instruments seperately instead of playing together at the same time making a sound that combines both.

The SPC cable was slightly dissapointing compared to the rest. Still kicks ass compared to the RadioShack brand RCA's that I use for testing new builds in my basement, but really not as good as the other 2. It didn't have all the detail of the other 2 and it's as if you listen to a song, hear all of it, then plug this cable in and all of a sudden, there's just less there. The overall sound was very much in between the 2 others. The bass was ok, the highs were ok, but the mids weren't as smooth. Plus, there was kind of this added presence to the sound that just didn't sit well with me. I'm sorry, I can't describe that last sentence better, it just didn't sound as good.

I didn't skip the "I will gladly accept a blind test if other independent people witness it no problem whatsoever." sentence, it's just that I never went to any Head-Fi meets and nobody I know is that much into audio to want to spend time listening to different cables. As a result of the testing, I will be getting rid of that SPC interconnect in the for-sale thread, just didn't sound that great to me.

I can definitely say that between the 3 cables, the differences are not life changing, but are easily noticed when you listen repeatedly to the same song and it's still fresh in your mind that you KNOW what you want it to sound like. I'd say it's the added 10% that really makes you love or just like the music.

1. I have criticized the "logic" of saying that "because people argue about whether cables make a difference, that proves they don't make a difference." That's just stupid.

2. My own view of whether cables make a difference is not based on logic per se, by on my own listening experiences. These have been detailed in my many prior threads, but to summarize:

a) I used to be a died-in-the-wool skeptic who criticized others who thought cables made a difference. At one point, however, after my headphone system reached a certain quality, and I had more experience in listening to various components, the differences between CD players, amps, and even cables became noticeable.

b) My claims that I have heard audbile differences in cables are not based on switching back and forth every few seconds or minutes between different cables, etc., while listening to a musical selection. Instead, there are a number of musical selections that I am intimately familiar with. I have listened to them so many times that know them as well as I know my wife's voice. When I have not changed my system for several weeks, for example, I come to know the nuances and tone of these selections very well. If something then changes in the presentation, such as the change one gets from changing out the source, I can generally notice it after some additional time listening (i.e., more than a few seconds or minutes), and the change is often quite obvious (i.e., it may not be huge in magnitude, but it is definitely there).

c) At one point in my experience, I changed out some power cables in my system (made my LAT International) replacing some DIY power cables I was using. The was a noticeable difference in the sound, especially in the reduction of sibilance, which I hate and which had been causing me to stop listening to my system after about an hour. I don't know whether I have dirty power or some other issue with interference at my house, but the power cords made a difference.

d) I tried several interconnects in my system, typically preferring the sound of a relatively cheap copper interconnet made by Better Cables over more expensive interrconnects I tried. At one point, I even found myself in the midst of an "accidental" blind test, in which I had changed out the Better Cables to a silver cable made a company whose name I can't remember (and might not mention anyway), and I really did not like how it changed the sound. I thought something was wrong with my system, and only when I investigated to see what was wrong did I find out I had changed interconnects a week earlier. I eventually ended up with an interconnect from LAT International, which I prefer by a slight margin over the Better Cables interconnect.

I have had other similar experiences, but this is just a sample.

Always nice to insult people.

the proof is in the "i want to learn about high end cables" thread. Instead of insulting people you don't really know, you should spend more time on the web to actually find the proof for yourself. There IS a website that measured commercial cables and proved the Nordost cables measured considderably better then any other cable. Also there is extensive info on the ohno process of making the single crystal cables and WHY they sound better then any other regular cable. These single crystal cables are usually used in the high end cables.

So, maybe, with your reasonably good education are looking in the wrong direction and are looking more into insulting people!

Your reasonably good education didn't teach you anything about manners!

sceptics are always ignorant: no matter how much proven or measurable evidence you provide, all they say is: those differences are too small to be heard. Maybe their minds are too small to comprehend.