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post #16 of 25
2/22/07 at 1:13pm
I liked the Desmond episode, too, which rekindled some hope I had for the series. Said hope was squashed with extreme prejudice last night. Didn't last week'd preview say that 3 questions would be answered? I counted one: the tattoo (oooh, big deal). What were the other two?

jpelg's comments are spot on: it's the writing. Has the show lost (no pun) a bunch of core writers? It sure seems like it. Easy for the armchair QB to say, but when things start to unravel like this, wouldn't it make sense to get back to basics, focus on the core characters, and start resolving some open story lines?
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post #17 of 25
2/22/07 at 1:30pm
bai ling just threw me out of the suspension of disbelief. she's just too gross for me to get into the character
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post #18 of 25
2/22/07 at 4:29pm
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So what were the other two secrets that were revealed in the show? I must have missed them.
One of the other secrets revealed was what had happened to Cindy and the children after they had been kidnapped. The other may be what the second island really was, which was kind of answered.

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I still watch the show every week, but I'm not as excited to find out what happens. It's lost alot of appeal when I read it's going to take 5 seasons to finish the story because that means there will be plenty of fillers to stretch the time it takes to finish. I've always felt the show should end within 3-4 seasons, but 5? Is it definitely going to be 5?
I thought they had enough material for 6.

I find that people remain in two camps when watching Lost: either they want answers every episode and hate the mystery, or there's people who just watch the show knowing that things will be answered eventually. I mean, when you start watching the show, you know it's built on suspense and mystery, that's the premise of the show! So, when people get annoyed at the show because of all the mystery, I find that they never really liked Lost in the first place.
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post #19 of 25
2/22/07 at 5:13pm
I should have stopped watching this after season 1. That first season was almost magical, I knew it couldn't last. Lost just seems cheap thrills really, using those huge "mysteries" to keep you waiting. You're not watching.. you're waiting for answers which they don't ever give. It's blatant from the start of season 2 they're trying to get as many seasons out of it as possible.
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post #20 of 25
2/22/07 at 9:01pm
I agree with jpelg and most of the others here. They're just drawing it out, hoping people will hang on waiting for those few decent episodes like the one with Desmond and the one before it (which I thought was pretty good). It really is writing that's missing. And plot. Last season they went on way too much with all the naughty naughty things that pretty little Kate did, to the point where I just couldn't stand hearing her voice anymore. Apparently a complex character nowadays is someone who's done bad things but has a conscience. Oh, wow. Now it's Jack being the guy who's been told he's nothing as a child who is supposed to be a leader. And for some reason, he needed a tattoo to tell him that. And yet he didn't want to be the leader in the beginning of the series...?

I follow what's going on, I don't find it too complex at all, it's just that many parts of the show just don't work. Thailand seemed like something they just came up with. And yes, the other two mysteries were what happened to the kidnapped survivors and where the Others live. But both those things were rather obvious from the start.

This was a filler episode at its worst, and I'm ashamed to say... that I'll watch next week's episode anyway.
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post #21 of 25
2/22/07 at 9:08pm
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I find that people remain in two camps when watching Lost: either they want answers every episode and hate the mystery, or there's people who just watch the show knowing that things will be answered eventually. I mean, when you start watching the show, you know it's built on suspense and mystery, that's the premise of the show! So, when people get annoyed at the show because of all the mystery, I find that they never really liked Lost in the first place.
"24" is a show built on suspense and mystery that has been pretty consistent in its quality. The reason that it has been so consistently good is that the writers strike a good balance between mystery and revelation. They throw the audience a bone before moving on to new questions. That's where Lost has failed. The excuse that Lost doesn't need to provide any answers because it's a show premised on mystery doesn't fly with me.

What frustrates me about last night's episode is not the fact that Lost provides so little answers. After watching three seasons of it, I know exactly what to expect. What frustrates me is that last night's particular episode was supposed to provide three big payoffs. Did they ever focus on his tattoos at all in any prior episode? I'm pretty sure that no one but Lost geeks who post on Lost message boards and freeze and analyze ever frame of every episode even knew that there was any significance to the tattoos. And how about the other question, which I'm assuming is "what happened to the abducted?"? The satisfying answer the show gives us is they are on the island observing. That's like someone asking me, "hey, whatcha up to?" and me responding, "something."

Don't tell me that I never liked Lost. I loved the first season and got some of my friends who had no interest in the show hooked. If my enthusiasm has waned, it's not because I didn't understand the genre. It's because the writers have done a very poor job of developing the plot after the first season. The qualitative difference between the first season and the following seasons cannot be justified by simply saying that it's supposed to be mysterious.
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post #22 of 25
2/22/07 at 9:09pm
I had it recorded and just finished it. Garbage.

The Desmond episode was good. It was a great example of why I liked the show to begin with, to follow it up with this is a prime example of why my interest is waning.

As has been my complaint for some time, new conflicts/questions are constantly introduced with no/little resolution to existing conflicts. Why does noone ask the questions that need to be asked? Jack has Alex to answer any of a multitude of questions and he asks her closed ended questions that noone cares to know the answer to? Sawyer and Kate have Mr. Clockwork Orange and Sawyer can only ask if he loves his girlfriend and then sends him packing? It is just frustrating.

We find out that Ethan was the island doctor/surgeon for the others. What a great plan it was to have him infiltrate their camp at risk of life and limb.

What is with slow talking monotone sherrif chick?
How many more times is Jack going to refuse to help the others before caving and helping them some more?
How about showing me something of characters I actually give a **** about?

I think the writers just hang out the week before taping to get drunk and scribble on napkins. When they sober up they tape the napkins together and we get the weeks episode.
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post #23 of 25
2/22/07 at 9:16pm
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How about showing me something of characters I actually give a **** about?
That's another problem I have with the show. I hate them all now. There was a heading on digg.com a few days ago saying that "Lost" and "Heroes" might be connected. I hope so. I hope the season finale of "Heroes" involves dropping the exploding guy on the Lost island and killing them all.
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post #24 of 25
2/22/07 at 9:24pm
The magnet/time story still draws me in to watch every week!
I also agree that this week's episode was very bland with scenes of Jack going back and forth into his cage. No real progress this week... Oh well, at least there's always next week.
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post #25 of 25
2/22/07 at 10:51pm
Once this show finally wraps I forsee someone doing a "Phantom Edit" to this series and releasing it on the internet to thunderous applause.

Trim the fat, give us the meat!
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