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post #901 of 17339
3/21/07 at 2:53am
Very cool pics ! It really is amazing to hear just how different amps can/do sound through stats.
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post #902 of 17339
3/21/07 at 3:06am
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Originally Posted by audiod View Post
SR-007 (heard)
SR-Lambda Pro (own)
SR-202 (own)
SR-XmkIII (own)
SR-Sigma Pro (heard)
SR-Lambda (own)
SR-Lambda Pro Sig (owned)
SR-5 w/SRX elements (own)
SR-404 (owned)
SR-303 (owned)
SR-Sigma (owned)
Very impressive. I own the SR-303 and while I generally speaking like it, the upper midrange elevation or 'etch' sometimes annoys me.

On simple 'brightness' scale, what are the SR-202 and Lambda Pro like compared to SR-303?


Regards,

L.
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post #903 of 17339
3/21/07 at 3:38am
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Originally Posted by Veniogenesis View Post
How would you rank or put in tiers the Stax earspeakers you have heard and/or owned based on how much you enjoy them?
My ranking:
SR-007 (Own)
SR-Lambda Pro (Own)
SR-404 (Heard)
SR-X/MK3 (Own)
SR-303 (Heard)
SR-202 (Heard)
S-001 MK2 (Owned)
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post #904 of 17339
3/21/07 at 3:57am
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Originally Posted by jjcha View Post
Had some transformer fun w/ lan today...

http://photo.head-fi.org/data/500/minimeet1.jpg
(there's a SRD-6 SB in the middle of that stack)

http://photo.head-fi.org/data/500/minimeet2.jpg

Lots of moving pieces going on, with gear being added, warmed up, plugged in. Hard to say what we liked, tho lots of things sounded different.

I think lan may be becoming a fan of the SR-Lambda (normal biased) though. It's certainly one of my fav cans.

Oh, HE60 with modded HEV70... quite an interesting sound. Not what I expected. Wished we also had an adapter to try it out of the SRD7 mk2...

Best,

-Jason
More info on those amps. Big DHTs get me hot and bothered, you see.
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post #905 of 17339
3/21/07 at 4:28am
Hi all. I am a complete noob when it comes to Electrostat. But I am curious.

Can somebody describe to me how I can obliterate by already dying wallet to start a Stax rig. Nothing too stellar plz, leave room to spare some $ for me to buy foods and sundries

Me guess is that one cannot just simply buy a Stax Electrostat and expect miracles to conjure yes? what else needed?

TQ
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post #906 of 17339
3/21/07 at 4:32am
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Originally Posted by EFN View Post
Hi all. I am a complete noob when it comes to Electrostat. But I am curious.

Can somebody describe to me how I can obliterate by already dying wallet to start a Stax rig. Nothing too stellar plz, leave room to spare some $ for me to buy foods and sundries

Me guess is that one cannot just simply buy a Stax Electrostat and expect miracles to conjure yes? what else needed?

TQ
Well the good news is that you don't need some über-expensive 'stat to get good sound, the bad news is that you're going to need proper amplification no matter what headphone you choose.

I'd recommend a transformer box paired with a decently powerful amp as the cheaper way to approach this, although there are other ways for the devoted to acheive the same results.
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post #907 of 17339
3/21/07 at 4:34am
Hey EFN. You can come audition my setup if you like... in 9 months time

The SR-5 (the old white version) + a SRD-6/7 + any amp capable of 30W~, or the SR-001mk2 system is probably the cheapest way into stax land these days. Damn those rising prices for vintage systems :|
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post #908 of 17339
3/21/07 at 4:40am
Carl:
Thanks buddy. I will need to look for amp also of course. What sort of amp (or specifically which brand) would you recommend. And how about that "transformer" thing - whereabout can I find those?

Tachikoma:
Yummy! I may as well pay you a visit earlier if you don't mind
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post #909 of 17339
3/21/07 at 4:48am
I judge headphones more for their musicality rather then outright performance.

Tier 1:
Stax SR-007

Tier 2:
Sennheiser He90
Sennheiser He60
Sigma Pro
Sigma
SR-404
SR-303
Lambda Nova Signature
Lambda Signature
Lambda Pro
Lambda
Beyer Dynamic ET1000 (on a good day)
SR-X Mk3 modded

Tier 3:
SR-202
SR-3
SR-3 NEW
SR-5
SR-003
SR-X Mk3. (unmodded)
Suprex PEP-74 (modded)
Micro Seiki MS-2
Koss ESP6 modded
Jecklin Float

Tier 4:
Magnavox 1A9217
Realistic HP-100
SR-40
SR-60
SR-80
SR-80 Pro
Koss ESP9

I'm barely awake so I've probably forgotten about some...
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post #910 of 17339
3/21/07 at 4:54am
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Originally Posted by EFN View Post
Carl:
Thanks buddy. I will need to look for amp also of course. What sort of amp (or specifically which brand) would you recommend.
It's just like shopping for an amp for anything else; pick one you like the sound of that's within your budget.

If it was me it'd be a triode amp with no/minimal negitive-feedback, but that's just my tastes.

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And how about that "transformer" thing - whereabout can I find those?
You'll have to get one off ebay/yahoo japan. The low bias ones are cheaper and more abundant, but aren't recommended for driving modern pro bias electrostats.

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Yummy! I may as well pay you a visit earlier if you don't mind
He's studying in Australia right now.
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post #911 of 17339
3/21/07 at 5:01am
Hmm we're doing a stax headphone ranking thing eh

Rank by how much I like them:
SR-5NB
SR-Gamma Pro
SR-X mk3
SR-303

Take my ratings with a pinch of salt, I suspect that the SR-303 was badly underdriven in my (old) rig, and the SR-X mk3 ... well it isn't even working right now The SR-5NB at the top of the list loses out to the gamma pro for detail and neutrality, but the gamma pro's collective quibbles nearly had me pulling out my hair... so the SR-5NB takes the top spot in my likeability list =P

I own the top 3 phones, had the SR-303 on loan for a month.
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post #912 of 17339
3/21/07 at 5:02am
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Originally Posted by Tachikoma View Post
but the gamma pro's collective quibbles nearly had me pulling out my hair... so the SR-5NB takes the top spot in my likeability list =P
Quibbles? What was wrong with them?
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post #913 of 17339
3/21/07 at 7:00am
Well, for starters, the membrane has a tendency to stick to the stators whenever I shift them around my head, and it doesn't unstick unless I discharge them. The channel balance would sometimes go whack until I open them up and re-adjust the membranes (I think thats the thing that fixes it), and finally there's that squeaky noise it makes sometimes.

The squeaky noise issue I think, originates from the protective membranes being leaky - it disappeared for a while after I had it replaced with cleanwrap, but has recently made a comeback -_-

In fairness the membranes of the SR-5NB sometimes sticks to the membrane, and I had to open them up once to fix the channel balance, but both issues have only occured once or twice during their time with me.
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post #914 of 17339
3/21/07 at 7:06am
Thread Starter 
The sticking issue doesn't sound normal. Your little Sony amp shouldn't be able to put out enough juice to cause that.
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post #915 of 17339
3/21/07 at 7:23am
Stax headphones should never stick to the stators. The stators are unprotected in the older models and will burn through the diaphragm. Is the bias supply in your amp ok, because you can only do this to a normal biased headphone by feeding it Pro bias.
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