The Stax thread (New) - Page 45

or will STAX's amp good for other cans, such as Audio-Technica, SONY, or Senn ?

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Stax amps are for electrostatic phones only, if u make an adapter, they'll fry your dynamics in half a blink.

Welcome to the great world of electrostatic headphones.
It will be a pleasant stay!
The Stax phones use a proprietary plug.
It will work with the Stax amplifiers and energizers, and aftermarket amplifiers which have a Stax connector. Beware that there are two plug versions, a 5 pin (580volt (Pro) bias) and a 6 pin (230volt (Normal) bias).

If going through an energizer, the amplifier would probably need to provide 30 watts or more.
I don't know this amplifier, but if it provides about 30 watts it might be ok.
You will need an SRD-7 Pro or MK2 energizer though...
or one of the aftermarket amplifiers. You can even use a speaker amplifier though an energizer.
Yes, they can be used for other electrostatic headphones with comparable bias voltage.
Example the Sennheiser HE90 and HE60.
Afaik neither Audio-Technica or Sony have made electrostatic headphones, so no go there. But the Sennheiser HE90 and HE60 should work fine out of a Stax amplifier, as long as you get a cable converter (different plugs).

Lots of questions, but I hope this clears out most of them.

Here are my attempt on a Stax Earspeaker, amplifier and energizer units guide.
It is not complete, and might have errors. So please let me in if you have corrections, or additional products which I have not listed!

In production = Bold Green
Out of production = Black

Earspeakers:

Pro bias (5 pin plug):

• SR-007 (Omega II)
• 4070
• SR-404
• SR-303
• SR-202
• SR-003
• S-001 MK2 (proprietary plug)
• Lambda Nova Signature
• Lambda Nova Classic
• Lambda Nova
• SR-Omega
• Lambda Pro Classic
• SR-Lambda Signature
• SR-Lambda Pro
• SR-Sigma Pro
• SR-Gamma Pro
• Alfa Excellent
• SR-X/MK3 Pro

Non-Stax (works with an adapter cable):

• Koss ESP-950
• Sennheiser HE90
• Sennheiser HE60

Normal bias (6 pin plug):

• SR-Sigma
• SR-Lambda
• SR-X/MK3
• SR-5
• SR-X/MK2
• SR-X
• SR-3

Non-Stax (works with an adapter cable):

• Beyer ET1000 (180v bias, but work fine at 230v)
• Superex PEP-74
• Magnavox 1A9217
• Koss ESP6
• Koss ESP7
• Marantz SE-1
• Infinity ES-1
• Realistic HP-100

Special bias (should work with an adapter cable):

• Jecklin Float (bias around 900v)
• Koss ESP9
• Koss ESP10

Amplifiers:

Pro bias (5 pin connector):

• SRM-007tII
• SRM-727II
• SRM-006tII
• SRM-323II
• SRM-252II
• SRM-310
• SRM-001 (proprietary connector)
• SRM-007t
• SRM-717
• SRM-006t
• SRM-313
• SRM-212
• SRM-T2
• SRM-T1S
• SRM-T1
• SRM-T1W
• SRM-1/MK-2 PP
• SRM-1/MK2
• SRM-1 Pro
• SRA-14S
• SRM-X Pro
• SRM-Xh
• SRD-X Pro

Non-Stax (with Stax Pro connector):

• Singlepower ES-1
• HeadAmp Blue Hawaii Special Edition (coming soon-ish)
• HeadAmp KGSS
• Rudistor Egmont Signature HE90
• Rudistor Egmont Signature
• Rudistor Egmont
• McAlister Audio EA-6 (coming soon)
• McAlister Audio EA-4
• McAlister Audio EA-1
• Woo Audio GES
• Masters BA-215TM
• HeadAmp Aristaeus
• HeadAmp Blue Hawaii

Non-Stax (works with an adapter cable):

• Sennheiser HEV90
• Sennheiser HEV70

Normal bias (6 pin connector):

• SRM-007t (some)
• SRM-006t (some)
• SRM-313
• SRM-T2
• SRM-T1S
• SRM-1
• SRM-1/MK2
• SRM-1
• SRA-14S
• SRA-12S
• SRA-10S

Energizers:

Pro bias (5 pin connector):

• SRD-7 Pro
• SRD-7 MK2

non-Stax (but have a Stax Pro connector):

• illusion ESC-1001

Normal bias (6 pin connector):

• SRD-7 MK2
• SRD-7SB
• SRD-6SB
• SRD-7
• SRD-6
• SRD-5

As you probably notice, some of the amplifiers and energizers are listed in both "Pro" and "Normal".
Meaning that they have both connectors, and can drive any Stax electrostatic headspeaker.

Edit 1: Added more Stax Earspeakers, and sections for non-Stax headphones. Ref. 'spritzer'.
Edit 2: Added SRM-727II and SRM-717. As pointed out by 'Afrikane'.
Edit 3: List sorted in chronological order, and added Green colour coding to the current in-production models.
Edit 4: Added non-Stax amplifiers and energizers.
Edit 5: Its Superex, not Suprex. Ref. 'wualta'.
Edit 6: Added Master BA-215TM.

Where in all of this do my SR-80 and SRD-4 fit? 5 pins both >.< (although its an electret)

I would like to add to the above list some none Stax phones:

Pro bias (with an adapter)

Sennheiser HE90
Sennheiser HE60
Koss ESP/950
Stax Lambda Pro Classic
Entire Stax Lambda Nova range

Normal bias (with an adapter)

Beyer ET1000 (use a 180v bias but work fine off 230v)
Suprex PEP-74
Magnavox 1A9217
Koss ESP6
Koss ESP7
Marantz SE-1
Infinity ES-1
Realistic HP-100

Special bias (but should work on a Stax amp with an adapter)

Jecklin Float (bias around 900v)
Koss ESP9
Koss ESP10

Phones that will not work off a Stax amp

Micro Seiki MS-1

You can drive them off any adapter box because there is no bias to worry about. The SRD-4 is an electret only adapter so there is no bias supply built in.

List updated. Thanks!

SRM717 & SRM727A Pro bias?

Ooops! I simply forgot that one... Added!

I would like to add that my 006tMk1 has two pro bias and one normal bias output. I think the ones towards the end of the Mk1 product line had three pro bias instead, but I'm not entirely sure.

Great list by the way, a real asset for non experts and noobs. Perhaps you could list in chronological order to differentiate between in production and oop?

Ok, so that goes for the 006t as well. Added 006t to Normal bias amplifiers list.
Thanks!
I am on it...

Sorry, did not mean to make you slave away on a Sunday.

No problem! I have nothing more important to do on a Sunday.