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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

I find the SR-009s very musical (and damn revealing at the same time). I find the HD800s colder and brighter (in comparison). If you're going for the SR-007s, I'd strongly recommend finding a good pair of MKIs.

Someone here was selling them not long ago w/ his SRM-717. He was iffy on selling, but I'm not sure if he's still selling them. The mk I went for $1800 and the 717 for $1k :> Think he's waiting to try an sr-009 next to them. 


Edited by MrViolin - 4/24/13 at 6:44pm
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Think it's gone.

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That was me and I've decided to keep them for the time being, the main reason being I want to compare them to 009's side by side when I get them in a few months.

 

There's been quite a few MK1's as well as 717's I've been seeing on the FS forums recently though.


Edited by K_19 - 4/24/13 at 8:24pm
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

No treble peaks like say the HE-6s or HD800s. smile.gif No harshness to my ears, but there is more treble energy than the SR-007s or the LCD-2/LCD-3 (but I find them a bit on the darker side and the SR-009s bang on IMO).

 

I agree but for one factor: listening fatigue. The extra treble energy you mention can tire me out after a few hours of listening to the 009 (& HD800s, though neither are as bad as the K701), whereas the 007s allow me to listen indefinitely. That's not to say that the 009s aren't neutral and spectacularly enticing. In fact if you dare venture into the realm of EQ you can easily compensate for tonal tastes while maintaining a clean and detailed sound.

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All I know is that the mid bass hump of the MK2 sounds more appealing to me and my preference for EDM, than a straight linear frequency. So I'd still be more interested in the newer 007s.
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This time I traveled on a plane with my 009 setup. My 009's hate traveling. They sound far more odd than any other Stax I have after traveling. I use a Pelican case and am hoping that they air seal on the case is not doing bad thing like putting bad pressure on the drivers when the case moves in travel. It has been a couple days and one driver seemed a little down  with treble and bass. It has been over an hour listening and trying setup adjustments to get the sound right. I just heard something happen with the driver that seemed off. It was like a very soft type pop where the sound seems to have restored itself. 

Edit. It is now the next day and I am thinking it may be from wax build up in the ear. They don't sound bright at all and if anything they sound a bit dull to me. Probably should get my ears looked at when I have a chance


Edited by jaycalgary - 4/25/13 at 6:06pm
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Let it burn in for a while. wink.gif

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Dunno how far you're flying, but could be humidity change

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In flight cabin pressure is the equivalent of about 7000 feet, give or take. And the humidity tends to be in the dry side.
I am not sure I see a reason why flying would interfere with the stators.
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This may sound counter-intuitive, but I actually found some slightly trebly recordings easier to listen to on the 009 vs the 007mk2 SZ3 (out of 727 stock amp at mild volume levels) because the latter, even though warmer, also happened to have more accentuated resonances in the mid highs than the 009 (the 009 is clearer but very well damped /controlled) which were quite excited by the particular recording (these were some of my first comparisons of 007mk2 and 009 right during the launch).

I recently compared 007mk1 and mk2 SZ3 measurements and it would seem to confirm what I hear: the O2mk1 is much smoother overall / better damped than the recent offerings to the point of making it dull sounding out of stock 727 amp, yet supremely forgiving of harsh recordings ( more so than the mk2 SZ3 imo).

As was pointed out by MH, there is a difference between generally brighter than most voicing (clearly a traight of the 009) and resonance artifacts (such as the 6-7kHz peak for unmodded HD800, or the wild zoo that is a typical ultrasone can in the mid highs). I find the 009 easier to listen to in such case (although I understand the comment from anetode about listening fatigue if you were to listen levels a bit higher than "normal").
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I figure the headphones should be resistant to air pressure changes in planes. After all, how many of them are sent by air mail each year with nothing happening? Could your ears be at fault from the flight maybe?

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I understand that Justin is now shipping his own special mod of the SR-009, which is made completely from aluminum alloy!  It has a frequency response from DC to the 80 meter amateur radio band, incredible 0.0000% distortion and perfect transient response!  The first customer, a fellow in Southern California, called their performance "arresting!"  After receiving the special SR-009's, he won't be able to listen to anything else for years!

 

See Tyll's comments regarding these novel Stax products:  http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/busted


Edited by milosz - 4/25/13 at 1:25am
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Originally Posted by arnaud View Post

This may sound counter-intuitive, but I actually found some slightly trebly recordings easier to listen to on the 009 vs the 007mk2 SZ3 (out of 727 stock amp at mild volume levels) because the latter, even though warmer, also happened to have more accentuated resonances in the mid highs than the 009 (the 009 is clearer but very well damped /controlled) which were quite excited by the particular recording (these were some of my first comparisons of 007mk2 and 009 right during the launch).

I recently compared 007mk1 and mk2 SZ3 measurements and it would seem to confirm what I hear: the O2mk1 is much smoother overall / better damped than the recent offerings to the point of making it dull sounding out of stock 727 amp, yet supremely forgiving of harsh recordings ( more so than the mk2 SZ3 imo).

As was pointed out by MH, there is a difference between generally brighter than most voicing (clearly a traight of the 009) and resonance artifacts (such as the 6-7kHz peak for unmodded HD800, or the wild zoo that is a typical ultrasone can in the mid highs). I find the 009 easier to listen to in such case (although I understand the comment from anetode about listening fatigue if you were to listen levels a bit higher than "normal").

 

 
It is true, there is a "brightness" of the headphone 007 mk2 SZ3 with a peak résonnance to 8 and 10 KHz that does not exist with the 009.
With the combi RKV-WEE and the 009, the system is very tolerant to the hard enregistrements in treble, better than the system SRM 727 + 007 mk2 (SZ3)
 
Eric
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Quote:milosz

I understand that Justin is now shipping his own special mod of the SR-009, which is made completely from aluminum alloy!  It has a frequency response from DC to the 80 meter amateur radio band, incredible 0.0000% distortion and perfect transient response!  The first customer, a fellow in Southern California, called their performance "arresting!"  After receiving the special SR-009's, he won't be able to listen to anything else for years!

 

See Tyll's comments regarding these novel Stax products:  http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/busted

Too true.

 

I just hope he doesn't have to send me one.

 

I'm not captivated by the thought of it's exclusivity...

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Well played, milosz.

 

In other news, I get my SRD-X in a few days. Do you think it will be able to stack up sonically with my previous SRM-Xh, or will it be a step down? I've read that energizers give up some detail in exchange for more bass, is that true as well? Keep in mind that I only have an SR-303, which isn't that hard to drive relative to other Stax.


Edited by Tus-Chan - 4/25/13 at 5:48am
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