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Time for me to upgrade from Grado SR60s. Need recommendationsfor about $250 range

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
Ive had my grado sr60s for a few years now and they have served me well. they are pretty much the only headphones i've experienced and have never tried audiophile quality headphones before. to me, they sound pretty damn good, better than my speakers and about the same as my ety er6i IEMs.

I think it's time for me to upgrade to at least entry level audiophile quality headphones (besides sr60s). This will be for listening to music off of the computer 95% of the time, the other 5% probably off ipod. The music is at least 192kbps encoding but lately have been trying to get FLAC or lossless albums. Now im upgrading so i can get the MOST enjoyment out of listening to music because i do listen to LOTS and LOTS of it. The types of music i'll be listening to will be lots of folk, pop, and rock. folk as in Cat Power, Elliott Smith, Sufjan Stevens, Joanna Newsom, etc. Pop as in belle and sebastian, new pornographers, rilo kiley, etc, and rock as in ted leo, radiohead, broken social scene. And i want these new headphones to ABSOLUTELY rock my ears when listening to post-rock/electronic instramentals like Explosions in the Sky, Mogwai, stereolab, and air (or just go here http://www.last.fm/user/vold/).

I want to spend about $250, most likely between 200-250(and i mean this much at the cheapest place to buy headphones [ebay]). I do like Grado but am willing to look at other places. i would prefer headphones that sound kickin without an amp or atleast with an amp under $100 (do those exist). I've been lookin at the sennheiser 600 or 650s, beyerdynamic DT 880, Grado SR 225s, and the AKG K701s. I dont know how any of these sound through personal experience but maybe some of you guys can help me out with which one sounds the best with the music i want to listen to with.

also is there a place i can try these headphones out? i dont know a place that sells high quality headphones or lets you try them out from a good source. i have a best buy, frys, sam ash, and guitar center near me.
post #2 of 20
The AKG 701, beyer 880, Senn 600,650 all need to be amped with more than a $100+/- amp imo.
post #3 of 20
Of the cans you've listed, the ones that will be most familiar to you and be great for your music likes, and won't necessarily need an amp would be the SR-225.

But yeah; the Senns certainly need an amp, and don't sound at all like your SR-60!
post #4 of 20
Simple.

Grado SR-225s.

As for trying out high end headphones in your area: you are probably hosed. I feel your pain.
post #5 of 20
Thread Starter 
ok so the grado sr225s would be the best for my type of music? they will sound considerably better without an amp than my sr60s right? does this also mean they will sound better (again with this type of music with the computer as a source) than lets say the senn 650 or akg 701 without an amp? what if the senn 650 had an amp? if i got a senn 600 with a $100 amp, would it sound better than grado 225 without an amp? how about if i used grado 225s with a cmoy amp or something?
post #6 of 20
x3 SR225. The 225 or 325i share similar tonalities to the SR60, but are way better refined. They also scale up pretty well. You'll continue to like Grado for pop and certain folk. At some point, you should try the HD580/600 for your space rock/ electronica. They need some amping, so it's something to get into later: but the Senn's soundstage and bass extension will be good for Mogwai and Air.
post #7 of 20
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Originally Posted by vold View Post
if i got a senn 600 with a $100 amp, would it sound better than grado 225 without an amp? how about if i used grado 225s with a cmoy amp or something?
Instead of thinking about the HD600, think about the HD580 (they sound almost identical). That gives you more money for an amp. I'd recommend that or continue with Grado: the SR225 isn't as amp dependant. I think you might like the Senns different presentation for your genres: at least I like Mogwai and Air on Senns....where there's soundstage. I have a SR325i for various pop and hard rock stuff: but space rock has some nice accoustic stuff that Senns seem to compliment Grados for.

http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD5...&s=electronics
post #8 of 20
The Ultrasone Proline 750 or 2500 are amazing purchased from NorthernSound for about 264$ US shipped.
post #9 of 20
Thread Starter 
thanks davesrose. i think ill go for the sr225 and start saving for a decent amp. that would be a better choice than going for the hd 580 with like a $100 amp right?
post #10 of 20
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Originally Posted by vold View Post
thanks davesrose. i think ill go for the sr225 and start saving for a decent amp. that would be a better choice than going for the hd 580 with like a $100 amp right?
Since you like the SR60, the SR225 will be a clear upgrade Just mentioning the 580 in case you wanted to try something different: the 225s are more upfront and rocking (really good for pop). I like the Senns large soundstage and bass for Mogwai and electronica. So the head-fi thing would be to get the 225 now and audition/save up for the 580 next (as an alternate headphone)
post #11 of 20
I listen to mainly the same music, and I use an SR60 as well... as I have the A900 when I want 'more laid-back' but wider sound, I decided to go for the MS2i as an upgrade to the SR60

the SR60 will move with the PengAmp Cmoy to my office plugged into my mac, while the Marantz->HeadFive->MS2i/A900 (depending on mood/music/girlfriend nearby) will be my new main setup

hope you enjoy your SR225's!
post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by slwiser View Post
The Ultrasone Proline 750 or 2500 are amazing purchased from NorthernSound for about 264$ US shipped.
x2. At the top of the Ultrasone range, the PROline 2500 or 750 will kick out bass, retrieve detail, and present a realistic soundstage that will ROCK your world!

Beautifully detailed in the high-end and simply slamming in the low, but with tremendous extension, authority, and control. Featuring offset drivers, they bring the outer ear back into the listening equation, instead of firing directly into the ear canal. I find the resulting presentation more natural and life-like.

The only caveat is that they need 150-200 hours of burn-in before they sound their best.

Pair either of them with an $85 Go-Vibe V6 and you will be screaming from the trees with delight!
post #13 of 20
X3 with absolute certainty on the Ultrasones. My Grado SR225s now belong to my wife.
post #14 of 20
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Originally Posted by dw6928 View Post
X3 with absolute certainty on the Ultrasones. My Grado SR225s now belong to my wife.
Oof! What more need be said?
post #15 of 20
I too started with the SR60s. I too was strongly considering moving up the Grado ladder because I loved the sound of the Grados. But eventually I decided I wanted to try the "house sound" of one of the Teutonic three (Beyerdynamic, AKG, or Sennheiser). Because of a variety of considerations, I ended up selecting the Beyer DT990s. I am very glad I made the selection, because the Beyers have a distinctly different sound from the Grados. There is more detail, more instrument separation, and this thing they called soundstage. As I said in another post, with the Grados, I did not really understand soundstage.

These may be a little outside your budget. I got them for about $275, shipped, from B&H (big props to B&H, BTW). I should note that I already had an amp (a PA2V2), and that was a consideration, because everything I read told me they needed to be amped. The PA2V2 is only $60, but I think you may want to go in another direction. The PA2V2 is considered a good pair with the Grados, but not so much with higher impedance phones. But there are other affordable options that should pair better with a higher imedance 'phone. Look at the amp forum.

I certainly do not want to rip the Grados. If I continue to expand my 'phone collection (and I plan to, as money and spousal good-will allow), the next can I get will probably be an upper end Grado. Enjoy your head-fi journey!
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