Originally Posted by manaox2
What other company overcharges and has a booth at all many retail locations to try out headphones that IMO do not accurately represent the product. It is not a BAD product, only considered grossly overpriced by others with experiences to compare. They have partnered with Apple, Target, and Sharper image, but won't compete in places like a hi-fi or musicians shop because they do no want other headphones available for demoing anywhere remotely close to these locations that would let people gain a fair opinion. They are the only company I can think of who charges more then $10 and does not put the driver specifications right on the package. That seems unethical in some way even if they do make great looking, good sounding desktop and living room pieces.
Its not completely their fault for how people see them today, no other even Mid-fi products are as widely available. They have capitalized on this and have vehemently fault for their reputation tooth and nail in the past, which you can also say is a companies job. It seems that BOSE refuses to compete to protect its reputation and even that is to be expected. I can't even look for an airline ticket without BOSE offering me frequent flyer miles for buying their headphones or turn on a late night channel without seeing an infomercial, their marketing beats the competition badly. Maybe I shouldn't dislike the company as its only protecting itself by creating a false image as having superior technology (that has possibly not changed in twenty years). I can't really dislike the average consumer either, as its not there priority to make sure everything they hear is true.
It upsets me that I have had at least one acquaintance (non head-fi) tell me that they were upset after buying the triports because another buddy had a PX100 that they liked better (also non head-fi) and I actually had nothing to do with that. Its fine with people buy it for reputation or looks, but some out there actually bought these for sound and build quality and came back disappointed. Some people who wear BOSE actually do compare (makes sense when you think you actually have the best and aren't trying to remain ignorant) and now they feel guilt. Isn't that a little to be upset by?
But that's just clever marketing, getting their product out in the market. what would you have them do, stand on a street corner shouting "roll up, roll up"
in the UK, where i'm not aware of any Bose booths or specific Bose shops, a hi-fi shop has to sign up as distributors, and have an account. Now, from what i understand, Bose are quite aggresive with with their distributors. The few shops i do know that stocked Bose products, stopped because they just didn't like how Bose wanted to push the gear.
but in an age where i get phone call after phone call at 8:00 at night from some person, whose first language isn't english, try to sell me accident insurance, that's just sales. Hard ruthless and very aggressive.
i can't really take issue with how Bose push there stuff in the market, that's life i'm afraid.
now if you deisgn and manufactured your own headphones, how would you get them out to market? for me other than starting my own website, maybe shoving them on ebay, maybe a bit of email marketing, i wouldn't have a clue. Bose have the clought to set up Bose specific shops, and booths, they've partnered with certain airline companies etc. is that wrong? it's like critizing costa coffee for partnering with sainsbury's so now (in the UK) you have a costa bolted on to most sainsbury's supermarket.
is that to be critizied, or is it just good marketing?
i don't see a porsche garage with a nice selection of ferraris to compare. a porsche garage is there to promote porsche.
when i was selling diamond blade cutters (used for cuting tar mack) i never sent a selection of the competitions blades to try. I'm there to promote the brand i was promoting. why would i want to compare with another brand, when i just want to sell what i have. Now, i have to say i personally saw (no pun intended) for my own eyes and used the diamond blades which i was promoting, and they were far better than our nearest competition, and quite a bit more expensive!
i don't see any headphone manufacturer purposely putting their product in the path of the competition, no one! i see hi-fi shops that have a number of products to bring you and me a selection of choices. I can't see the Sennheiser sales team getting excited because they saw a nicve selectionn of their products, with a nice selection Of grado's and AKG's. i can't hink a sales rep would say, "don't our headphones look nice next to the Grado and AKGs'" i should imagine Sennheiser would like their own display (which i seen in quite a few hi-fi shops) with a nice Sennheiser logo, and i should also imagine that senheiser would like a large chunk of the headphone display area for themslves. so according to some of your commnets, that would seem unfair, and so Sennheiser products would be low grade and not worth the money.
anyway gotta dash.