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post #31 of 36
11/13/03 at 2:03pm
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Originally posted by Nik
Next vsit you will can to listen the most tubey electrostatic sound!!!
Thank you, Nik!

But I have a feeling that I will prefer the Angstrom/R10 combo. As you know, I prefer musicality, intimacy and emotion, and I am not so keen on soundstage perception.

By the way, have you ever considered tube-rolling for the Angstrom? What about expensive WE437A tubes by Western Electric instead of the Sovtek 6C45? Their specifications ought to be very similar. Have you ever talked with the designer about this? I guess you have.
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post #32 of 36
11/13/03 at 2:12pm
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Hi Thomas,

you do not remember my first trhead about the Angstrom's construction. I bought the WE 437A the designer tested them on the prototipe of the new amp... but the Sovtek performed better, more power and clarity...

The tubes in the Angstrom are the best for the designer, I cannot to do any other experiment...

I would like to convince you that (and I'm surprise too much) the Omega + srm007t+Brimar tubes, are very musical combo, even intimacy, as I said: a open sister of the R10 thet now has a voice too much "dark" or colored in comaprison with the "light" (not cold), warm light of the Stax. The extremely sensitive Omega change his sound just for a tube or a shield in the tubes... I'm thinking now that the Stax combo is more life-like respect to my R10 combo.

Best!
Nicola
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post #33 of 36
11/13/03 at 2:33pm
tomcat,

Nik is right though!
i also owned a stax rig, although older, it had some of the qualities nik describes.
especially voices are very well presented with the stax rigs.
some people say that the stax is a bit too neutral!

if you are into choire stuff etc. then the stax rigs will shine!

i cannot compare to the new omega2, but my old stax rig lacked a bit musicallity! it was very,very neutral to me!

see ya all.
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post #34 of 36
11/13/03 at 3:00pm
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Originally posted by Nik
Hi Thomas,

you do not remember my first trhead about the Angstrom's construction. I bought the WE 437A the designer tested them on the prototipe of the new amp... but the Sovtek performed better, more power and clarity...
Nicola,

I just read the old threads. Originally, you wanted the amp built around the WE437A, but the designer prefered the 6C45. Have you ever been able to compare the tubes for yourself? Is it possible to simply exchange them now, or would you need different resistors?

While "greater power and clarity" are a good thing, I'd be even more interested in greater intimacy and emotion. That's not necessarily the same. However, my guess is that the WE437A would increase the difference between your dynamic and your electrostatic setup. The Angstrom/R10 combo might appear to be even more "colored" and "warm" with it. I guess I would love it.


tourmaline,

I have listened to the 007t/OmegaII combo several times, and its sound left me cold. So far, I prefer dynamic headphones, and I have listened to Nik's Angstrom/R10 combo. That's why Nik has such a hard time convincing me that a tube-rolled 007t/Omega II combo can be more musical. I have to visit him once again. I hope I will.
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post #35 of 36
11/13/03 at 7:29pm
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Originally posted by Tomcat
Nicola,

I just read the old threads. Originally, you wanted the amp built around the WE437A, but the designer prefered the 6C45. Have you ever been able to compare the tubes for yourself? Is it possible to simply exchange them now, or would you need different resistors?

While "greater power and clarity" are a good thing, I'd be even more interested in greater intimacy and emotion. That's not necessarily the same. However, my guess is that the WE437A would increase the difference between your dynamic and your electrostatic setup. The Angstrom/R10 combo might appear to be even more "colored" and "warm" with it. I guess I would love it.


tourmaline,

I have listened to the 007t/OmegaII combo several times, and its sound left me cold. So far, I prefer dynamic headphones, and I have listened to Nik's Angstrom/R10 combo. That's why Nik has such a hard time convincing me that a tube-rolled 007t/Omega II combo can be more musical. I have to visit him once again. I hope I will.
tomcat, i know what you mean!
since i owned a stax rig, i know generally how they sound. they are designed to be very,very neutral.
i also began to miss something in the music. especially with rock&roll, wich i think needs intimacy! you won't get that from a stax rig! although according to Nik the omega2 is way much better then my old rig!

it is a fact that i sold my stax rig and switched to dynamic headphones! the mid/low bass wasn't that great(tube flaw).
don't forget the fact that elektrostats do wear! the dynamic cans will even sound better the older they get!

i think that playing around with a stax rig and several cd-players might improve things a little.
but then again, the linn sondek 12 is generally know as the best(analog) sounding cd-player around. if that setup even "feels"cold to you, then i guess it is not for you!

i can imagine why you stick to your dynamic cans!
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post #36 of 36
11/14/03 at 4:17am
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Originally posted by Tomcat
[B]Nicola,

I just read the old threads. Originally, you wanted the amp built around the WE437A, but the designer prefered the 6C45. Have you ever been able to compare the tubes for yourself? Is it possible to simply exchange them now, or would you need different resistors?
Hi Thomas,

to replace the Sovtek with the WE437A need to change just one valor of a resistor, very easy work... but I agree with the designer, the Sovtek are better for a more open and detailled sound, what I desire for the Angstrom amp. and the R10.

Best!
Nicola
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