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post #16 of 37
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Originally Posted by mathman View Post
5.1 for headphones sounds like a neat concept, but seems as if it would be quite difficult to implement (without creating huge headphones). Really, to get the sense of surrounds you would need drivers coming in from different angles, when really headphone drivers are positioned more or less parallel to the plane tangent to your head. I'd just recommend getting a good set of stereo headphones (possibly Senn 555 or 595) and plugging them into your reciever. Hope this helps!
5.1 headphones are a reality, my friend. Take a look here:

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showth...ight=phonodome
post #17 of 37
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Originally Posted by mathman View Post
5.1 for headphones sounds like a neat concept, but seems as if it would be quite difficult to implement (without creating huge headphones). Really, to get the sense of surrounds you would need drivers coming in from different angles, when really headphone drivers are positioned more or less parallel to the plane tangent to your head.
No, to get surround in a headphone you don't need a driver for each channel. You just need some excellent processing. Like the Beyerdynamic Headzone.
I've tried it, and it sounds stunningly good.
Unfortunately, the Headzone costs $2500, but it's meant for professionals working with 5.1 mastering.
There'll be a consumer-version sometime at the end of this year (I hope).
post #18 of 37
*sigh* These threads where people are interested in surround sound headphones always turn into "surround sound is bad, you need stereo headphone" threads, which sucks because there seems to be a lack of information on surround sound headphones (And it gets a bit annoying when they're all immediately dismissed and these threads turn into regular ol' stereo headphone threads).

So, repeating the OP's original question, what are some good surround sound headphones around $200 (I'm not interesting in hearing how much better stereo headphone are for imaging and what not; what are some good SURROUND SOUND headphones?)?

Sorry for being a bit abrasive
post #19 of 37
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Originally Posted by Azure View Post
*sigh* These threads where people are interested in surround sound headphones always turn into "surround sound is bad, you need stereo headphone" threads
Well for $200, that is the correct advice. In that price range, I have yet to hear a surround heaphone that wasn't a honky gimmicky mess.

And I'm a huge 5.1 fan, so I do sample them. The most recent I sample was a set by Acoustic Rearch. It had nice spatial effects, but as far as fidelity and sound reproduction, it was a shrill thing - maybe comparable to an SR-60 without the tone that Grado's get right.

Jensl makes an excellent point, it's not the drivers, its the processing. If someone really wants to re-create surround in a headphone, get a receiver or soundcard with Dolby Headphone and an excellent pair of regular headphones. It's not that bad.

Edit - I would also love to hear some suggestions. Maybe something I missed?
post #20 of 37
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Originally Posted by virometal View Post
Well for $200, that is the correct advice. In that price range, I have yet to hear a surround heaphone that wasn't a honky gimmicky mess.
Well, that's the thing. I'm not asking advice on the best thing to do, I'm asking the best advice on which surround sound headphones to get (Regardless of whether or not stereo headphone XXX sounds better or not).
post #21 of 37
Maybe just 'regular' headphones in conjunction with this:

http://www.audiocubes.com/product/JV...e_Adapter.html

I have a friend who's staying in Japan for 2 months and asked him to bring me one.

Cheers,

Matthieu
post #22 of 37
obligatory

could actually be a viable option!
post #23 of 37
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Originally Posted by bonesinc View Post
Maybe just 'regular' headphones in conjunction with this:
http://www.audiocubes.com/product/JV...e_Adapter.html
Now, you're on to something! Regular headphones with processing. Why sacrifice one for the other? That's the way I see it.

For the OP, I think he/she might like to experiment with some cheap headphones out of the receiver using a 5.1 source. This downmixed effect can be very pleasing.

Oh btw: for anyone that is interested OP here is a dated article, but still full of good info concerning surround headphones. It also compare them to "stereo" headphones:

http://www.behardware.com/articles/4...tive-test.html
post #24 of 37
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Originally Posted by virometal View Post
Jensl makes an excellent point, it's not the drivers, its the processing. If someone really wants to re-create surround in a headphone, get a receiver or soundcard with Dolby Headphone and an excellent pair of regular headphones. It's not that bad.
DH + HE60 = Delicious.
post #25 of 37
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Originally Posted by Carl View Post
DH + HE60 = Delicious.
I've seen you rave about Dolby Headphone all the time, but...how do you get it (Or how do you use it?)? Is it just integrated into certain software, or is there a universal plug-in or something? Is it only for movies? What's the deal?

Yes, I went to their website and checked out, and it seems that it's integrated stuff. How do you, Carl, use dolby headphone (What setup, software, etc. do you use?)?
post #26 of 37
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Originally Posted by Azure View Post
I've seen you rave about Dolby Headphone all the time, but...how do you get it (Or how do you use it?)? Is it just integrated into certain software, or is there a universal plug-in or something? Is it only for movies? What's the deal?

Yes, I went to their website and checked out, and it seems that it's integrated stuff. How do you, Carl, use dolby headphone (What setup, software, etc. do you use?)?
I use a Philips AH1000 as a preamp.
post #27 of 37
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Originally Posted by mathman View Post
5.1 for headphones sounds like a neat concept, but seems as if it would be quite difficult to implement (without creating huge headphones). Really, to get the sense of surrounds you would need drivers coming in from different angles, when really headphone drivers are positioned more or less parallel to the plane tangent to your head. I'd just recommend getting a good set of stereo headphones (possibly Senn 555 or 595) and plugging them into your reciever. Hope this helps!
You all know Senn has 5.1 headphones?
post #28 of 37
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Originally Posted by ev13wt View Post
You all know Senn has 5.1 headphones?
Most headphone manufacturers do. Senn's ones could be better.
post #29 of 37
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Originally Posted by Carl View Post
I use a Philips AH1000 as a preamp.
Uh...okay. I'm guessing you meant that you're getting dolby headphone processing from the AH1000? When you recommend Dolby Headphone to everyone, how do you suggest/expect them to obtain it (using a preamp like you? Or using a different component?)? What do you recommend other than the AH1000 (Since the AH1000 seems hard to find...)?
post #30 of 37
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Originally Posted by Azure View Post
Uh...okay. I'm guessing you meant that you're getting dolby headphone processing from the AH1000?
Yes, it's a combined DH processor and headphone amp.

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When you recommend Dolby Headphone to everyone, how do you suggest/expect them to obtain it (using a preamp like you? Or using a different component?)? What do you recommend other than the AH1000 (Since the AH1000 seems hard to find...)?
The JVC SU-DH1 will work fine, but I didn't want to mess around with yet another wall-wart, and having your batteries die mid-album/film is immensely frustrating.
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