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post #91 of 2162
6/21/07 at 12:45am
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Originally Posted by Lamprologus View Post
What about the midrange of DX1000 then, how does it compare to AT woodies?
I haven't owned the AT woodies recently enough to really accurately comment probably, but from memory, the midrange of the AT woodies is a little more neutral. But they sound pushed forward because of the lack of bass weight.
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post #92 of 2162
6/21/07 at 1:05am
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Originally Posted by Skylab View Post
No, the DX1000's do NOT sound like AT woodies. The JVC has much more bass, and the bass is of a very high quality. It has the deepest bass of any headphone I have ever heard (I actually measured it). But the D5000 is a more neutral headphone. The AT headphones (W1000 and W5000 I am referring to here) lack bass weight and impact when compared to the DX1000 or D5000.

A little sidetrack but FWIW, even deeper (not louder) bass can be found with the Sennheiser HD280, followed by the AT AD2000. They both reproduce sub-20hz pipe organ tone much clearer and more effortlessly than the DX1000. The K701 and DT880 will as well, but very softly.

That said, any bass above about 20hz or so belongs to the DX1000, for sure.
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post #93 of 2162
6/21/07 at 2:12am
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I've never found going with the crowd to be particularly benefitial. I'm certainly glad I haven't been led to believe an HD595 driven from an iPod and a Hornet is headphone perfection. There are many, many paths in life, and it's important to find our own one.
Who made that statement?
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post #94 of 2162
6/21/07 at 5:39pm
Which types of music are these cans suited for? Are there genres that they don't suit for? I'd like a can with good bass that does well with most rock, blues and pop. Impact and speed is a must .... Is the DX1000 for me? I should say that I have tried Grados but I don't like their treble.
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post #95 of 2162
6/21/07 at 8:53pm
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Based on that, I bet you'd like the DX1000's a lot.
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post #96 of 2162
6/22/07 at 9:21am
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Based on that, I bet you'd like the DX1000's a lot.

Only one way to find out for sure .
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post #97 of 2162
6/22/07 at 5:00pm
I love my DX1000's and find they have FANTASTIC synergy with my Headroom Desktop (max module and max DAC). This is my work system and I find many times that I MUST focus on the music and not my work, it just sounds sooooooo good.

I 100% agree wth the midrange coloration, but only notice it on quick A/B comparisons. Once used to the DX1000 sound, I never get tired of it. Terrific with vocals; awesome with bass (strings, piano, synth) and percussion; non-fatiguing treble without exaggerated sibilance; very good soundstage, spaciousness and reproduction of instrumental decay. In many ways, my favorite headphone.
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post #98 of 2162
6/22/07 at 5:13pm
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Originally Posted by Torske View Post
I love my DX1000's and find they have FANTASTIC synergy with my Headroom Desktop (max module and max DAC). This is my work system and I find many times that I MUST focus on the music and not my work, it just sounds sooooooo good.

I 100% agree wth the midrange coloration, but only notice it on quick A/B comparisons. Once used to the DX1000 sound, I never get tired of it. Terrific with vocals; awesome with bass (strings, piano, synth) and percussion; non-fatiguing treble without exaggerated sibilance; very good soundstage, spaciousness and reproduction of instrumental decay. In many ways, my favorite headphone.
My feelings exactly! That midrange coloration is indeed very benign, hard to notice at times. And the soundstaging (spaciousness, depth, height) is to-die-for.
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post #99 of 2162
6/22/07 at 7:11pm
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In many ways, my favorite headphone.

Do you like the DX100s more than your Edition 9s and D5000s?
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post #100 of 2162
6/22/07 at 7:24pm
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Do you like the DX100s more than your Edition 9s and D5000s?
For pure listening enjoyment...YES. There are things that each headphone does better than the other, but when listening to the JVC, I concentrate on the music, NOT the sound. I don't believe I can pay an audio component a better compliment.

With that being said, I feel very similar about the HD650's, which also seem to make terrific music for me. In my personal rating system of my headphones, I have:

JVC DX1000/Sennheiser HD650 > Edition 9 > Denon D5000 > AT W5000.

All are terrific, but FOR ME, I really love the full bodied, evenly balanced sounds of the JVC's and the Senn's.
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post #101 of 2162
6/22/07 at 8:01pm
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[...] when listening to the JVC, I concentrate on the music, NOT the sound [...]
Here's where I part company with Torske. I often notice that the JVC is doing something that the textbook says it shouldn't be doing. And that's somewhat distracting, in that it makes me aware of its sonic signature. But here's the odd bit: It's fun! It's what's made me pick it up more often than the other, more neutral phones lately. For me, the JVC experience is very much about the sound -- that warm, very wide and deep sound it puts out, with its more resonant upper bass. And I really don't know what's wrong with having that kind of fun!

But, if sheer neutrality is the goal, the D5000 is the safe bet. My two cents...
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post #102 of 2162
6/22/07 at 8:51pm
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Originally Posted by Soundinista View Post
Here's where I part company with Torske. I often notice that the JVC is doing something that the textbook says it shouldn't be doing. And that's somewhat distracting, in that it makes me aware of its sonic signature. But here's the odd bit: It's fun! It's what's made me pick it up more often than the other, more neutral phones lately. For me, the JVC experience is very much about the sound -- that warm, very wide and deep sound it puts out, with its more resonant upper bass. And I really don't know what's wrong with having that kind of fun!

But, if sheer neutrality is the goal, the D5000 is the safe bet. My two cents...
Isn't the whole reason we listen to have fun?!? Having fun, I would posture, is the subconscious saying "This is RIGHT!", despite what the brain analyzes as objective differences or problems. I listen to my other phones (except the HD650 for the most part), there is always something that takes my mind away from the music, but with the JVC, I just simply enjoy and have fun.

I had a similar experience with motorcycles. I had a Harley Davidson that I sold for a Honda Goldwing. The Honda had better brakes, better handling, more power, more comfort...all in all a "better" motorcycle. Boring as could be. Got back on a technically inferior HD and HAD FUN. Proved to me that what is best is not necessarily what measures best.
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post #103 of 2162
6/22/07 at 9:58pm
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I don't get distracted by the JVC's coloration. I know it's there, but they sound so good, that it almost never bothers me. And on some songs, the coloration is so beneficial it makes the DX1000 the best possible headphone for those songs.
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post #104 of 2162
6/22/07 at 10:11pm
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For pure listening enjoyment...YES. There are things that each headphone does better than the other, but when listening to the JVC, I concentrate on the music, NOT the sound. I don't believe I can pay an audio component a better compliment.
Yes, I will say the the JVC's can make me forget all the system details and enjoy the music, pure and simple. That might be the ultimate endorsement.

As for the midrange coloration, it is no doubt there. As to how noticeable it is, it all depends on what music I play on them. If I play large classical orchestra or pipe organ music, there is a lot of sound material that both lies and stays in the colored range. Then it sticks out to me in a big way. If I listen to a jazz trio, harp or classical guitar, the midrange doean't "honk" because there isn't enough sonic material in that range to stick out. A simple digital -1 or 1.5 db across the 500hz to 1000 hz range takes it all away and really spiffs up the sound.

These are my favorites, blows away my Stax Lambda Nova Signatures in all but the most intimate musical textures. I sold my K1000's and bought these with most of the money from them. I haven't looked back!
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post #105 of 2162
6/22/07 at 10:51pm
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Originally Posted by Skylab View Post
I don't get distracted by the JVC's coloration. I know it's there, but they sound so good, that it almost never bothers me. And on some songs, the coloration is so beneficial it makes the DX1000 the best possible headphone for those songs.
And I thought I was making stuff up. There are some songs that sound like they were composed specifically for the DX1000s they sound so good, but I thought I was crazy because the next song might just sound "pretty good". Glad to know it's not just me.
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