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post #76 of 869
No hum in my stock tubes either...

EDIT: Sorry, mine is the 336i - Got my threads mixed up...
post #77 of 869
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Originally Posted by Jo6Pak View Post
No hum in my stock tubes either...

EDIT: Sorry, mine is the 336i - Got my threads mixed up...


They use the same stock tubes.. it's no biggie.
post #78 of 869
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Originally Posted by nick20 View Post
They use the same stock tubes.. it's no biggie.
Actually, that's only half true

The 337 uses the 6SJ7 driver tube, versus the 6SN7 for the 336i (and these are similar looking, but electrically very different tubes).
post #79 of 869
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Originally Posted by Skylab View Post
Actually, that's only half true

The 337 uses the 6SJ7 driver tube, versus the 6SN7 for the 336i (and these are similar looking, but electrically very different tubes).

Oh yeah.. I forgot. It's been a while since I read the first page...


And Mazuki makes tube adapters for the 7N7 too, which are replacements for the 6SJ7's correct?


EDIT: quick search on eBay shows a few 6SJ7's, and they aren't at all pricey, like some 6SN7's. Which is a good thing...
post #80 of 869
Would this amplifier be easy to mod into use for balanced headphones due to its dual mono configuration?
post #81 of 869
Thread Starter 
Wow, a lot of interest in this amp lately, this is great! Finally this amp is getting the attention it deserves.

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And Mazuki makes tube adapters for the 7N7 too, which are replacements for the 6SJ7's correct?
7C7 are the loctal equivalents. They're even cheaper and sound at least just as good!

I'm also in the process trying some other tubes, EF86, 6AU6 etc. I'll report back later about them.

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Would this amplifier be easy to mod into use for balanced headphones due to its dual mono configuration?
I don't think it can run balanced, but I'm not a circuit expert. You'd probably have to ask John Broskie or something.

As a side note, after finishing this Bijou (aka Cavalli Lovell Futterman) I have to admit, I haven't listened to the 337 in over a week. The bass quantity doesn't quite compare to the 337, but the darkness of the background and the clarify of the music coming out of this Bijou is really astonishing. But since I'm comparing a commercial amp to a DIY endeavor, it's apples and oranges. Long live the Darkvoice 337.
post #82 of 869
Thanks guys for reporting back on there being no hum with the stock tubes...thats what I had presumed.

I suppose Darkvoice or Jasmine do have some effective QC, because the only hum experienced is that with certain rolled tubes, which I'm guessing is because the auto-biasing of the amp just doesnt quite work as well with that particular make&model tube.

Enjoy the 337, I hope some folks with access to other tube amps like Woo or SP can do some comparisons
post #83 of 869
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Originally Posted by musicmind View Post
tomtjx, I know you mentioned you didnt listen at all with the stock tubes, but I wonder if you can check if you have any humming with the stock tubes.
I'm curious about whether jasmine checks for this when they "burn-in" your amp.

I'd hate to have to ship back a 15kg amp if it werent checked before shipping

Thanks, keep up posted on your experiences
Yes, both Jasmine and the factory check out the amp and burn in the stock tubes till no hum. jasmine emailed me while listening to make sure the amp functioned correctly.

After 5 hours the hum was almost gone here. I just got back from playing a performance and it is 10:20pm , absolutely no hum. All tubes are dead quiet.

This amp is phenomenal. Incredibly musical and all the seduction of tubes in the best sense. There is a lifelike presence to the sound that is uncanny.
The dynamics are immediate and recreate the concert hall experience exceptionally well. And I mean a great concert hall.
Some halls suck out the life and dynamics like a mediocre amp.
this amp is like the Myerson hall in dallas, every detail and dynamic shading is there.
A great hall lives and breathes with the orchestra and this amp does the same.

I am very impressed (and that is an understatement) :-)
post #84 of 869
Musicmind - back in the 60's - 70's, I remember replacing tubes that would be initially just fine - then hum in 2 weeks. There are no guarantees. You could test just fine and still hummmmmmm. While I prefer the sound of tubes......they can also be a pain in the a*s (I hate to use asterisks rather than be more frank).
post #85 of 869
Tomjtx, I am really glad to hear you like it. Nice to see another happy 337 owner! It's an astoundingly good amp for the money IMO.
post #86 of 869
My only complaint is a tiny chip in the paint I put there myself AARRGGHHHH!!!

Time to buy some glossy black nail polish and make it disappear :-)
It is a very tiny chip.

I can never play a guitar for more than a week without dinging it too.........oh well.

It is a phenomenal amp.
post #87 of 869

Now... Who's Right???

OK... you guys say its great!

On the other thread... they're saying its only slightly better than the DV336.

So... who's right???
post #88 of 869
It's significantly better, IMO.
post #89 of 869
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Originally Posted by Gradofan2 View Post
OK... you guys say its great!

On the other thread... they're saying its only slightly better than the DV336.

So... who's right???


That "guy" is Mazuki, and is the same person here...



To say the least, since I know you're interested, at least you'd be able to sell it here for a minimal loss, if you felt it wasn't worth it...


I trust Rob's experience and knowledge. I would however, like to try the 337 against a Bada PH-12 [aka "giant killer"](both amps in house).
post #90 of 869
have you guys tried the 337 with low impedance headphones such as grados or Audio Technicas? As I understand it darkvoice/tube amps have higher output impedance than normal and don't power these low impedance headphones effectively
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