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post #31 of 869
10/15/07 at 7:02pm
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Originally Posted by nick20 View Post
I think so..

SE = Special Edition, no?
yes I can see that...so..what was upgraded? and the price difference between SE and stock
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post #32 of 869
10/15/07 at 7:03pm
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Originally Posted by chesebert View Post
yes I can see that...so..what was upgraded? and the price difference between SE and stock

Eh, I'm not sure..

IMO that gold looks oooogly.
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post #33 of 869
10/15/07 at 7:44pm
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Originally Posted by chesebert View Post
so..what was upgraded?
The end panels.
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post #34 of 869
10/15/07 at 7:49pm
Sorry for the OT, but a quick question to Fitz:


Are you still doing any mod's for the 336i?





Thanks,

-Nick
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post #35 of 869
10/15/07 at 7:59pm
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Originally Posted by nick20 View Post
Sorry for the OT, but a quick question to Fitz:


Are you still doing any mod's for the 336i?





Thanks,

-Nick
Yes, I still do the standard mods for the 336 when I'm hired to do so.
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post #36 of 869
10/15/07 at 8:00pm
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Originally Posted by chesebert View Post
when you say 'amazing bass' which cans are you using?

I can attest to the out-of-head feeling of DV amp; my 332 does the same thing. However, I don't think I am getting 'amazing bass' when compared to the Dynahi I use to have. Is 337 that much better than 332 wrt to bass? (I use K701)
The bass was awesome on my JVC DX1000's.
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post #37 of 869
10/15/07 at 8:14pm
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Originally Posted by Skylab View Post
The bass was awesome on my JVC DX1000's.
hmm...looking at the imp rating for dx1k and k701 they are similar, I am certainly not getting 'awesome bass' with my k701...I wonder why..is 337 that much better in bass vs 332?

<edit> Just had a listen to my rig. Maybe the bass is not as bad as I thought it was. If you can describe 'awesome' in a little more detail. Like mid bass, depth, slam, PRaT, etc. </edit>
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post #38 of 869
10/15/07 at 11:50pm
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Originally Posted by chesebert View Post
hmm...looking at the imp rating for dx1k and k701 they are similar, I am certainly not getting 'awesome bass' with my k701...I wonder why..is 337 that much better in bass vs 332?

<edit> Just had a listen to my rig. Maybe the bass is not as bad as I thought it was. If you can describe 'awesome' in a little more detail. Like mid bass, depth, slam, PRaT, etc. </edit>
The bass was remarkably well defined, tight, and powerful. Much better defined than any other tube amp I have ever owned, including the DV 336i.

The 337 is quite different from the 332, so I wouldn't be surprised that they differ.
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post #39 of 869
10/16/07 at 12:04am
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Originally Posted by Skylab View Post
The bass was remarkably well defined, tight, and powerful. Much better defined than any other tube amp I have ever owned, including the DV 336i.

The 337 is quite different from the 332, so I wouldn't be surprised that they differ.
I was told by the maker of DV that 332 is a smaller version of 337, but they have essentially the same topology, sans the tube difference, and 1 less transformer.

When is the next chicago meet? I think I need to bring my 332 to get some serious comparison done.
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post #40 of 869
10/16/07 at 12:12am
Drop by with your 332 anytime!
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post #41 of 869
10/16/07 at 12:19am

I Don't Suppose...

I don't suppose it could possibly be... the difference in the phones... and not the amps... could it!?! Well duh.uh...

The DV332 has "awesome bass"... if... you have the right phones!
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post #42 of 869
10/16/07 at 12:40am
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Originally Posted by Gradofan2 View Post
I don't suppose it could possibly be... the difference in the phones... and not the amps... could it!?! Well duh.uh...

The DV332 has "awesome bass"... if... you have the right phones!
I see what you are saying, but what I said was that the DX1000's have better bass with the 337 than any of my other tube amps. So I was comparing the same headphones with different amps in concluding the 337 has great bass.
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post #43 of 869
10/16/07 at 1:37am
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The topology of the 337 and 332 may be the same, but just the fact that the tubes are octals versus novals in itself will lead to differences in sound.

Also, there are a couple of threads on the Darkvoice forum with pictures hinting at part changes. Any combination of them could turn out to be the 337SE. For me, I'd rather just upgrade the parts myself.

Here are the three threads:

http://www.diybuy.net/thread-82139-1-1.html

http://www.diybuy.net/thread-71485-1-2.html

http://www.diybuy.net/thread-51309-1-1.html

The output caps are currently 51uF SCR (Solen) MKP caps. Perhaps changing to some other brands will improve the sound. I'm also planning to change the power supply caps to 105°C rated electrolytics.
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post #44 of 869
10/16/07 at 9:07am
new headamp from little tube
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post #45 of 869
10/16/07 at 10:04am
Looks like a Little 2 Much...
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