Originally Posted by donaldekelly
Just trying to get some ballpark evaluations so I know which headphones to readup more about. In other words - I was still pretty new at the time. And I still have never heard a Beyer or a high end Sony. I have heard only one Grado.
So if you think the Sony streetstyle is a pos that doesn't mean anything? I should ignore you and every other member of headfi in what your opinions of headphones are???? I am confused by this statement. Certainly one person may not be a Grado fan and another may not be a Sennheiser man, or I may think the Ety 4s have enough bass, and the next person thinks they definitely do not - all those various opinions show up here. But there are some constants. 90% of us say stay away from cheap Sony headphones. More examples could be given of phones we all respect or all hate. Then there are the ones that get mixed reviews that bear more research. (Well the ones with good reviews bear more research as well).
I don't remember reading about any of the headphones you like. I am sure you have written about them many places, but I am new and have only followed some of the threads. Sure if you have been around here for two or three years there may not be much point other than killing time in one more way to talk about headphones. But I am still fairly new.
Do you know which headphones I like? No - no - stay away from that serach button. "everybody here knows what everybody likes"
I hope this makes sense and does not seem like I am trying to start a flame war. I am confused by your post as you are by mine. I appreciate your comment about not trying to be rude. Sincerely.
Thank you for responding. I do want to make clear that I was not attacking you personally, with the "who cares except you" remark. The "you" would be each individual Head-Fi member. When each person lists their preference from best to worst, there are a lot of variables and each list is in a particular context depending of musical tastes, amplification, sonic preferences. So if the intent is to spot the best/worst headphones, it's like trying to hit a moving target. Everybody has a preference and an opinion. One should not use anothers as a reference point for their own decisions regarding headphones, or anything. The only way that that can be validated is if you were to see a common grain with another member, who has heard the same headphones that you have and has come to similar conclusions. Even then, their musical tastes might be different and in the long run you want something different. Yes, there are some constants but very few. Budget cheapo cans generally are trashed here and with good reason. Yet the real "arguments" (differences of opinion actually) seem to occur with the top end phones, like R10, RS-1, HD650
Example: I prefer not too much top end and do not like exaggerated soundstages, which will occur with any headphone where the drivers are not sitting on the ear, in the ear, or in close proximity to the ear. To me
, headphones should
sound like the music is inside your head and at the sides of your head. That's what headphones do, by their very nature. Bringing the drivers away from the ears makes a wonderful hi-fi sonic thrill, but it is doing a disservice to the musicality IMO
. The recording comes under a microscope, the parts become separated and the performance doesn't gel. It sounds great for a while, but I eventually begin to feel distanced from the point of the music. Headphones cannot and should not try to approximate the listening/sonic experience that one gets from sitting back and listening to loudspeakers. Again, this is just the way I feel about headphone listening
. I would not expect everyone to share the same views. So, given the above, many peoples top preferences would not be suitable for me.
I used to see similar lists in older Sound and Vision magazines, where the reviewers would list their favourite equipment. The Koss Porta-Pro would appear on 2 or three lists, yet I never liked that headphone. Some others that I did
like (such as the Yamaha HP-1), not many people were aware of them or had the opportunity to hear them.
My comment about "everybody know what everybody likes" was poking a bit of fun, as we have all had some wonderful discussions and multiple threads on "veils" and "brightness"