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Thanks

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Here ya go, these cats seem to be using the digital inputs from their cd players so dont see why you couldnt do it from your sound card although as I found with the x-fi card, even the digital connection in some cards and drivers color the sound some.
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=216091
Thanks for the pointer, Bigwormie. I decided on the 0404 USB a few weeks ago but because of the lack of non-beta linux drivers I let it sleep... And missed that important thread!

Now, because of YOU I'll buy the 0404 usb sooner. :-)

Regards,
Nuno
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Question for bigwormie, or anyone who has this, are the installation instructions in the manual to be trusted? The addition of a stapled pamphlet in the package makes me apprehensive.

One more big question: Is the Direct Monitor Level knob infinite (i.e. digital not analog)? Mine was initially very stiff but loosened considerably after fiddling with it. Just want to make sure it's not been damaged in transit before I go to the trouble of installing. All the other level knobs seem to be analog and have a stop.
Question#1=I gave no thought to that but yes there is a stapled manual in my box. I just popped the disk into my media center pc and install went without a hitch. I remember that I did some fooling around with the software and right now am listening to it locked on 48.0 khz and sync source set to "internal". If it provides any comfort, I got a similar mickey mouse pamphlet with the 1212m. As I mentioned before, you will probably have problems with the digital outs on the 0404 as the firmware is not perfected yet. Question#2 The volume controls are totally hardware based and not software based at all. Sorry to say this but my direct monitor volume knob stops at the max setting, so yours might be damaged. Any software volume you would like to do must be done from your player such as foobar/itunes/media player/winamp. There should not be any hastle with installing, as a matter of fact, I still have my regular soundcard installed and probably a couple of old drivers left behind by the 1212m and x-fi. Let us know what you think and what cans/software you are using.
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Question#1=I gave no thought to that but yes there is a stapled manual in my box. I just popped the disk into my media center pc and install went without a hitch. I remember that I did some fooling around with the software and right now am listening to it locked on 48.0 khz and sync source set to "internal". If it provides any comfort, I got a similar mickey mouse pamphlet with the 1212m. As I mentioned before, you will probably have problems with the digital outs on the 0404 as the firmware is not perfected yet. Question#2 The volume controls are totally hardware based and not software based at all. Sorry to say this but my direct monitor volume knob stops at the max setting, so yours might be damaged. Any software volume you would like to do must be done from your player such as foobar/itunes/media player/winamp. There should not be any hastle with installing, as a matter of fact, I still have my regular soundcard installed and probably a couple of old drivers left behind by the 1212m and x-fi. Let us know what you think and what cans/software you are using.
Just to make sure, before I pack this up and send it back (I can't beleive I have to do this).

The knob in question is defintely marked differently, while the other knobs all have a white marked rib (demarcation) this knob is all black (it has the rib but isn't painted white. It seems to function normally, just doesn't stop at 5 o'clock postion.

I already know what your answer will be

post #34 of 53
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Just to make sure, before I pack this up and send it back (I can't beleive I have to do this).

The knob in question is defintely marked differently, while the other knobs all have a white marked rib (demarcation) this knob is all black (it has the rib but isn't painted white. It seems to function normally, just doesn't stop at 5 o'clock postion.

I already know what your answer will be

oooppps, glad you were very thorough in asking, you must be rich Sorry, you are right, I was playing with the main output not the direct monitor, I have never used that thing. I only use the main output knob and the headphone level knob. You are fine. I am very excited for you!!!! HOOK IT UP!!!!
post #35 of 53
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oooppps, glad you were very thorough in asking, you must be rich Sorry, you are right, I was playing with the main output not the direct monitor, I have never used that thing. I only use the main output knob and the headphone level knob. You are fine. I am very excited for you!!!! HOOK IT UP!!!!
Whoohoo! Very happy now. Unfortunately I have to work and won't be able to play with it until tomorrow night. But at least I don't have to return it.

The must be rich comment has me stumped. I know it's something clever, I just don't get it.
post #36 of 53
Has anyone tried the 0404 with K501? I'm considering buying the E-MU instead of a Porta Corda/Headphonia.
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Has anyone tried the 0404 with K501? I'm considering buying the E-MU instead of a Porta Corda/Headphonia.
I just tried this combo. IMO, it's a no go. The 0404 can't drive the 501s sufficiently for me. I had it cranked all the way it just didn't have enough.
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I just tried this combo. IMO, it's a no go. The 0404 can't drive the 501s sufficiently for me. I had it cranked all the way it just didn't have enough.
That's not good. Makes me question whether the 0404 could drive Senn HD650's loud enough for me.
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I just tried this combo. IMO, it's a no go. The 0404 can't drive the 501s sufficiently for me. I had it cranked all the way it just didn't have enough.
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That's not good. Makes me question whether the 0404 could drive Senn HD650's loud enough for me.
How could this possibly be? I could not IMAGINE listening to my 650's at even half volume? Are you sure that your source (foobar, winamp, etc.) was turned all the way up? I know that 701's (dont know much about the 601's or 501's) can be harder to drive than the 650's but I cannot imagine them being that much harder to drive then the 650's. There has to be something wrong. This is going to be a bold statement but, I defy anyone to come on here and say #1 that the 650 & 0404 usb is not at least a "decent" combo but more importantly #2 that they could even possibly listen to the volume for an extended period over 1/2 power(650 and 0404 and average hearing). Sorry to sound so bold about this but trying what I have tried, it just doesn't make any sense to me. Do I have some magical 0404 or was yours broken?
post #41 of 53
hey bigwormie, is this the emu 0404 usb you bought? http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...d-20/ref=nosim

you have won me over with your statements!
post #42 of 53
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Thats the exact one I bought. I always try to buy amazon for their 30 day return policy. Make sure you fine tune your eq to your liking when you get it because I found the 0404 accentuated the highs and lows a little. In foobar all I did was hit "auto eq" which put everything from the far right frequencies to about the mid range to about -4. Then I adjusted the far two or three left bass frequencies up to about +1 because I like a little bit extra bass. Let us know what you think as I am currious how other people feel about the 0404 with stuff other than hd 600 and 650's. Although I enjoy my 600's with it, to me it just isnt the same experience as with the 650's.
post #43 of 53
bigwormie,

I'm of course considering the 0404 too. What top differences did you find between your 600's and 650's. Thanks
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Sorry to sound so bold about this but trying what I have tried, it just doesn't make any sense to me. Do I have some magical 0404 or was yours broken?
No apology necessary, but I'm pretty sure mine is working just fine. It drives my MS-1s quite well (though not to painful levels to be sure). Really couldn't drive the K501s well at all, not just too quiet but also no punch. The 501s normally get driven by a Little Dot Micro Tube, which does very well, so I have a good idea what they can sound like.

I suppose it could be my source but I tried several tracks, all using Music Match. I haven't leveled the tracks as I've read mixed comments about mp3gain.

I'd be willing to try something else to verify my results though. Personally, though I am very satisfied with the 0404, I was surprised that I have to crank the volume almost all the way.
post #45 of 53
I may have to try one of these as well. Having heard a LOT of gear though I'd wonder about that synergy with Senns vs. any other headphones. I've found the Senns to be somewhat forgiving when it comes to an overall pleasant experience. I use them with an old Marantz integrated quite often, out of my EMU 1212M. They have a decent presentation but instrument seperation and soundstage are nowhere near what these headphones are capable of.

Also, Grados and other low impedance phones are much harder to drive when it comes to new consumer headphone outs. I've tried the output on my Klipsch 5.1 speakers control module, similar to your Bose unit. The Sennheisers can sound decent but my Grados are completely lifeless. Right now I don't even have an amp that can decently wake up my 325i, considering the 6sn7's in my MPX3 don't have the power to really move them.

Anyway don't let any of that detract you from what you have there. I got my first system together and couldn't really hit that point of being satisfied, so I started seeking out meets where I could hear bigger and better gear. Well of course the bigger and better stuff introduced me to some things that I hadn't really heard before so I went after them myself. I consider myself now at the point where lots of people would tell me I could do better on one piece or another. In the end I can still go to meets, hear the best that's out there, and come home completely happy with my system as it stands.
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