Lott screwed up 3 times!!!LOL

well, kind-of

His quote was closer to "If the country had followed in mississippi's ininatave to elect strom thermond, we wouldn't have all the problems we have today"

Me and kelly had a fairly fruitless discussion on the topic, mostly due to in my opinion of being political opposites.

Basically, he screwed up badly, again. He said a nearly identical quote in 1980. As a democrat, i'd acually like him to say in his position because it gives a negitive image for the republican party, however, i suspect it to not happen.

He will most likely step down. And his BET appearance was just pathetic, he's clearly racist, and yet, on there, he claims to support afirmitave action

lott is done for

How did that moron get into office? Or did he just turn moron after he got into office?

Actually, did ya'll know that U.S. Senator Robert Byrd is a former Klu Klux Klan member? And he's a democrat. Amazing -- I mean -- seriously, how in the flying fig do these clowns get in office? (a car full of clown voters, I guess.. har har)

Yeah, Lott's in hott water. The guy shouldn't have gone on B.E.T. and made those instant platform changes. I mean, the guy did a total flip on MLK holiday and affirmative action -- I mean, man alive, right or wrong (regarding the issues), you just don't change your point of view in attempts to kowtow to your opposition. Have some backbone.

Wow, another racist simple and plain (a little Public Enemy flavor for you) David Duke is in hot water (news article on CNN) - guilty on tax charges and mail fraud. Wahoo!

There's definitely a double standard for this kind of thing:

http://www.bostonherald.com/cgi-bin/...tz12182002.htm

Double standard??? Yeah... right... uh ********? Confusing the issue? Does that free him from his racist background? OH sure he's a changed man... NOW he believes in Martin Luther King Day... He claims he didn't know enough about the man to vote for a holiday... WTF kind of politician doesn't know about Martin Luther King???? The point of that article you posted RickG is essentially that since those people got away with being insensitive racist ****s Lott should too... AND WE SHOULD ALL FEEL REALLY REALLY BAD FOR HIM... AWWW POOOR LOOTTT I FEEL SO BAD.

Yeah David Dukes a changed man, you know, being a grand dragon in the KKK is something you just forget about and move on. How many people get hired at Wal-Mart with the words "Grand Dragon, KKK" in their resume??

It's not a double standard RICKG what it is more likely is that there are still racist sentiments being held by many people in this country.

Not having been around for Strom Thermond's 1940s presidential campaign as a Dixicrat, I don't know if it was run on the single issue of segregation. Weren't there other defensible issues, such as conservative fiscal policies and anticommunism? I seem to remember reading that FDR produced some fairly strong reactions throughout the country to his domestic and foreign policies during the decade that preceeded this 1948 election. Thermond was probably reviled by Republicans at the time as a "spoiler" in the election. Did the Dixicrats have any presence in any other national elections, other issues than the indefensible one of segregation, or any other candidates on the national scene?

Did you evan bother to read the commentary I linked to? I think you're exactly right, aiOtron...there are still racist sentiments being held by many in this country (duh) and there are just as many from one party as there are from another. Jessie Jackson is a racist...John Kerry is a racist. My point is that some get a free ride on this stuff.

I feel your presentation of the idea of a double standard is misleading. I took what you posted to mean that the people who would be upset at Lott for saying what he said were wrong because they had overlooked previous offenders. And at the very least that is exactly what that article was trying to get across.

Forgive me for dumping on you but I thought you were trying to somehow imply that the people who are pissed at Lott were the ones with the double standard.

And in truth my vehemence is directed more towards that article than towards you.

Woah! Was that columnist one of Lott's Sigma Nu brothers at Ol' Miss?

I wouldn't call it a double standard; in every case mentioned in that article there was a good deal of outrage from various communities. The author also conveniently left out all of the examples where someone made such a comment and was forced from office or their position.

He also mischaracterized some comments as "racist" or "prejudice" when they clearly weren't (Dershowitz's comment about the probability of an area with a large Irish population not giving an English person a fair trial -- is it offensive to suggest that a group of Irish in the 80s might possibly have something against the English? )

Plus there's a big difference between a media personality and a politician who is by his very position supposed to represent his constituency. Lott is also the third in line for succession to the presidency (as Pres. pro tempore of the Senate) and, as Senate Majority leader, the most powerful man in congress. So he's going to take a lot more heat than a commentator on a TV news magazine.

Finally, keep in mind that the movement to remove him from his position is actually stronger among the Republican party leadership than it is among Democrats. A lot of Democrats would love to see him stay, for obvious political reasons Republicans, desperate to convince blacks and other minorities that they really are all for "inclusion," realize that this isn't the way to sell it.


The most telling part of that whole article -- where I really stopped taking it seriously -- was when the author claimed that Lott's recent remarks -- just a few in a long, documented history of questionable, and at times outright racist, comments and actions -- were nothing but "an act of kindness." Okey-dokey.

P.S. The brouhaha over Kerry's remark about "Italians" was interesting. He was talking about the Italian army -- not exactly the most feared fighting force on earth -- not Italians as an ethnic group!

Everything's cool, ai0tron and MacDEF (really). I was just trying to present a different angle on this thing. I have no pity for Lott and the best thing he can do is step down. What a dumb-ass...like most of those congressman are!

(BTW, I usually stay out of this stuff...and for good reason!)

At the 1948 Democratic National Convention, Hubert Humphrey gave a speech that it was time for the Democratic party to embrace equal rights for blacks (up to that point, most southern Democrats were actually segregationists). The Mississippi and Alabama delegates left the convention in protest, and went back home to form the "Dixiecrat" party, nominating Thurmond as their presidential candidate. He chose another southern segregationist (I forget the name right now) as his running mate. On most issues, their platform was similar to the Democratic platform of the day -- the main difference was one of opposition to integration.

The Dixiecrat presidential ticket won three or four southern states that year, but didn't have much other national success, that year or any other.