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post #931 of 2298
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Originally Posted by Shaffer View Post


Yes. That's why the pads have different part numbers.

 

How early?

I've owned 3 pairs of K701's, one of them was around 8K serial that also had angled pads.

post #932 of 2298
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Originally Posted by Shaffer View Post


Yes. That's why the pads have different part numbers.

Edit: as you mentioned, the latter 701 may come with angled pads, but is the degree (if you will) of the angle the same? The 702 pads have a fairly substantial rake.
post #933 of 2298
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Originally Posted by viralcow View Post

How early?
I've owned 3 pairs of K701's, one of them was around 8K serial that also had angled pads.

I don't know.
post #934 of 2298

I had K701 about 3-4 years ago, and they had the angled pads, and as far as I know, this is actually the norm for most of the other users that I've seen.  I HAVE seen some users saying that their K701/702's come with non-angled pads as well though, so I'm not sure what's going on there... but for certain, majority of users of K701 from what I've read and seen have angled pads on them.

 

On topic, I picked up a K601 recently just because I've always been curious on how they sound, and they're excellent neutral headphones.  Perhaps so neutral that it's a tad unexciting at times but still, excellent overall.  Like it better than the K701/Q701's I've had in the past, it seems to have bit less of that 2.5k peak (though it's still there to some degree) that AKG headphones tend to have that can be shouty and annoying with vocals..  For how much they go for used nowadays, a steal.

post #935 of 2298
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Originally Posted by K_19 View Post

I had K701 about 3-4 years ago, and they had the angled pads

As said earlier, it may be the degree of the rake (if any) that distinguishes the two part numbers.
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and as far as I know, this is actually the norm for most of the other users that I've seen.  I HAVE seen some users saying that their K701/702's come with non-angled pads as well though, so I'm not sure what's going on there... but for certain, majority of users of K701 from what I've read and seen have angled pads on them.

Perhaps it's indicative of the fact that every post on the internet doesn't carry the same weight and/or is based on a parity experience, if any. Shocking, I know. cool.gif
post #936 of 2298
I just did some quick comparisons between the pads using an Oppo105 as a source and a Violectric V200 amplifier. It usually takes me weeks to do a valid comparison, so take this FWIW:

With the 702 pads the tonal balance was a bit brighter, which extended into the mids. Sibilants were slightly more pronounced, the presentation was more upfront, and the congestion I always heard in the 612's mids was somewhat diminished, perhaps as a psychoacoustic product of a lighter tonal balance. Those who enjoy 612's more laid back presentation may be disappointed. OTOH, if you feel like the K612s don't sound airy enough, these pads may change that. Bass quality - delineation, detail, etc - was significantly improved over the stock pads. I'll do more listening over time and post back. Did I mention the bass was really good?
post #937 of 2298
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Originally Posted by Shaffer View Post

I just did some quick comparisons between the pads using an Oppo105 as a source and a Violectric V200 amplifier. It usually takes me weeks to do a valid comparison, so take this FWIW:

With the 702 pads the tonal balance was a bit brighter, which extended into the mids. Sibilants were slightly more pronounced, the presentation was more upfront, and the congestion I always heard in the 612's mids was somewhat diminished, perhaps as a psychoacoustic product of a lighter tonal balance. Those who enjoy 612's more laid back presentation may be disappointed. OTOH, if you feel like the K612s don't sound airy enough, these pads may change that. Bass quality - delineation, detail, etc - was significantly improved over the stock pads. I'll do more listening over time and post back. Did I mention the bass was really good?

Thanks Shaffer.

I do think the K612 would benefit from a more emphasised bass but I'm also not a fan of pronounced sibilants.

So from your description looks like with the K702 pads I would fix one thing but at the same time worsen the other...

 

Please post further impressions if you do other testing!

Thanks.

post #938 of 2298

For me, the 601 is not worsened in any way by the 702 pads. Probably a difference in driver design for the new 612 or possibly a difference in break-in (if you believe in that sort of thing). The new drivers are most likely voiced a bit differently.

 

Anyway thanks for posting some results. I'm still tempted by the 612 because of their excellent pricepoint. Though the 702 pads do add about $50...

post #939 of 2298
Has anyone oped up the 612? I wonder if a bass mod similar to the K7XX is doable? I tried taking off the (silver) end camps, for a lack of a proper term, but had no luck. Are they attached differently than on the 7XX?
post #940 of 2298
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Originally Posted by Shaffer View Post

Has anyone oped up the 612? I wonder if a bass mod similar to the K7XX is doable? I tried taking off the (silver) end camps, for a lack of a proper term, but had no luck. Are they attached differently than on the 7XX?


I haven't been able to open mine either. I do believe they can be modded the same way going by the K601 which is able to be bass modded.

post #941 of 2298

kman1211, I see you have both the Schiit Magni and the Hifiman EF2A amps. Would you post a brief comment on which you prefer with the K612 and why?

Thanks!

post #942 of 2298
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Originally Posted by doraymon View Post
 

kman1211, I see you have both the Schiit Magni and the Hifiman EF2A amps. Would you post a brief comment on which you prefer with the K612 and why?

Thanks!


I far prefer the EF2A to the Schiit Magni on the K612, but I also use some nos rtc tubes on the EF2A. The EF2A is more expensive, but the difference in sound quality justifies it for me, especially with nos tubes. The EF2As dac is rather subpar though, I would just use it for the amp. The K612 sounds a bit flat, thin, and lifeless on the Magni, the soundstage and depth isn't very good it sounds very flat on these headphones, there is less dynamic range and the midrange seems a bit distant compared to the EF2A. The EF2A gives the headphones more body, depth, a bigger soundstage and better seperation yet also more intimate, bass and midrange has more presence, and it simply sounds more real. The one advantage the Magni has is that it's a little smoother in the treble.

post #943 of 2298

Thanks kman1211.

Unfortunately I just realised that the EF2A is not sold anywhere here in Germany...

In any case, we are talking double the price of a Magni + the extra tubes...

I have to find a way to test the Magni myself before buying, but again, the closest distributor is in the Netherlands... :(

post #944 of 2298
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Originally Posted by doraymon View Post
 

Thanks kman1211.

Unfortunately I just realised that the EF2A is not sold anywhere here in Germany...

In any case, we are talking double the price of a Magni + the extra tubes...

I have to find a way to test the Magni myself before buying, but again, the closest distributor is in the Netherlands... :(


You could look into the Schiit Vali, I think it will do better than the Magi with the K612. Sorry to hear that.

post #945 of 2298
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Originally Posted by dragonfly50 View Post
 

I don't have any other AKG cans to compare my k601s to, but I have to say I've been listening to them at home almost exclusively since I got them new a month ago. There's something addictive about them, maybe the soundstage or delineation of instruments and voices. The grey pads that come with them seem quite nice - how do the 701/702 pads improve things? I cannot complain about the $149 I spent for them, new! Now maybe an Aune T1 or X1 can make even more sonic improvement over a stock HP soundcard. Or maybe some other reasonably-priced DAC/amp?

 

On that topic, anyone have the newer memory foam pads they've tried on the K612 or K601?

 

With my Schiit Vali my Q701/K702 sound really slick. Of course the K601 is a bit different beast overall. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Shaffer View Post


If you're referring to the K7xx series, the 702 pads are angled and the 701 pads are not. Not sure if that's what you're talking about. smily_headphones1.gif

Most photos I've seen indicate otherwise. Are you certain? It could be that later 701 models were changed to the angled pads

 

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/6593/200812250c8c80b139b2824.jpg

 

http://cdn.head-fi.org/e/ed/900x900px-LL-ed8d53b1_SDIM1310.jpeg

 

http://cdn.head-fi.org/6/67/675a36f6_DSCN5002.jpeg

 

http://i468.photobucket.com/albums/rr50/Htr-Labs/5121379f.jpg

 

Member here says his pads are angled on his 701 in post 885:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/157102/akg-k501-love/870

 

 

 

I've owned quite a few of the K701/K702/Q701 line, and I believe the K701 and K702 both started getting angled pads around the same time the Q701 line came out. I owned a brand new pair a few months ago and it came with the angled pads. 

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