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post #151 of 1641
How do the 601s compare to the 880s? I don't listen to my 880s much as they are a bit dry for my taste. I am thinking about selling them and getting the 601s or 701s.
post #152 of 1641
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Originally Posted by ciphercomplete View Post
How do the 601s compare to the 880s? I don't listen to my 880s much as they are a bit dry for my taste. I am thinking about selling them and getting the 601s or 701s.

Less bright highs, more rich mids and bass. Not as tight and not as good treble extension, but more pleasing sounding and definetly not dry.
post #153 of 1641
So overall it sounds like primary differences from k701 and k601 are:

Obviously the physical differences (color, pads, headband)

For sound it sounds like:
601 has slightly less soundstage than 701
Perhaps a bit less clarity in the treble?

Any other sonic differences

Also by comparison are the 601s a bit easier to drive than a 701?

Also what do 601s pair best with:Tube, SS or Hybrid?
post #154 of 1641
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Originally Posted by MusicallySilent View Post
So overall it sounds like primary differences from k701 and k601 are:

Obviously the physical differences (color, pads, headband)

For sound it sounds like:
601 has slightly less soundstage than 701
Perhaps a bit less clarity in the treble?

Any other sonic differences

Also by comparison are the 601s a bit easier to drive than a 701?

Also what do 601s pair best with:Tube, SS or Hybrid?
The 601s are generally more of a "fun" pair of cans then the 701s. They color the music a bit, and are warmer.

The 601s should be harder to drive then the 701s, seeing they are 3x the ohms.

Definitely SS. You don't want a tube amp to color the 601 sound anymore, or make it warmer. The CI Audio VHP-2 amp works very well with the 601s.
post #155 of 1641
Yea they are more ohms however from my understanding there are a few things that determine how hard to amp

Impedence
Current needed
Voltage swing (I think that is one of them)

From what i have heard while the AKG 701 has low voltage it needs a ton of current because it is very current/power hungry
post #156 of 1641
hey guys
im most likely getting these sweet cans AKG makes... the K601s...
i was leaning toward the k701's, but the k601's were good enuff and better for the price
im going to be using these headphones for my alienware labtop, mostly for listening to music and watching bluray movies, occasionally gaming...
so i know these cans require a good amount of drive to bring out their potential, so im most likely going to get an amp with DAC to connect to my labtop for optimal sound.
my friend told me however to just get an upgraded sound card like Creative's X-FI Sound Blaster that sticks right into my external card reader and it has a slot for the headphones, so presumably get better sound and it also comes with software...
however i have been reading more ppl talking about getting an amp for the K601's, so i was looking at HeadRoom's Total Bithead portable amp. since it has a usb connection, i can use it easily with my labtop, and i can even use it with my mp3.
my main question is, which will benefit my headphones better for optimal performance in sound, the Creative sound card? or the BitHead?
from what i read, the BitHead will drive the headphones better, but the Creative soundcard will give me nifty features like 5.1/7.1 surround sound and a couple of other things... so i am confused as what to get. so i am asking, based on my situation and what i am using my k601's for, which will be better suited with them? the bithead or creatives sound blaster card. thanks, and sorry for the newb question
post #157 of 1641
You're not going to get 5.1/7.1 surround out of headphones. You need that many speakers and a sub. I've never heard the BitHead, but they will drive the K601 better than your on board sound and most likely better than the Creative card. All of my portable amps sound best plugged in, not running off of a battery. I assume the same will go for the Bithead as well.
post #158 of 1641
This thread is evil. I want an AKG again and 601 is sucking me in.

damn you all
post #159 of 1641
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Originally Posted by scompton View Post
You're not going to get 5.1/7.1 surround out of headphones. You need that many speakers and a sub. I've never heard the BitHead, but they will drive the K601 better than your on board sound and most likely better than the Creative card. All of my portable amps sound best plugged in, not running off of a battery. I assume the same will go for the Bithead as well.
hmm... i see, my friend is still saying to go with the soundcard, for the amp will only help me out purely on music basis, and not by that much if that....
i also read this
"Basically soundcard is similar or the same with DAC, since both has DAC (Digital Analog Converter) chip inside - but to differentiate the functions - soundcards target multimedia purposes for PC/MAC, which adding additional features such as surround 5.1/7.1, EAX, positional, etc - while external DAC/source is focused for music listening only in pure stereo format."
so soundcard wud be better in my situation???
cuz if the creative soundcard does a goodjob of making my K601's sound really good, then thats all im really looking for...
post #160 of 1641
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Originally Posted by Faizan21 View Post
hmm... i see, my friend is still saying to go with the soundcard, for the amp will only help me out purely on music basis, and not by that much if that....
i also read this
"Basically soundcard is similar or the same with DAC, since both has DAC (Digital Analog Converter) chip inside - but to differentiate the functions - soundcards target multimedia purposes for PC/MAC, which adding additional features such as surround 5.1/7.1, EAX, positional, etc - while external DAC/source is focused for music listening only in pure stereo format."
so soundcard wud be better in my situation???
cuz if the creative soundcard does a goodjob of making my K601's sound really good, then thats all im really looking for...
Stereo means 2 channels/speakers.

To get 5.1/7.1 you would need 5 speakers and a sub or 7 speakers and a sub. Since headphones only have 2 speakers, they are only capable of stereo.

An external USB DAC like the Bit Head you mentioned, would give you a lot better sound quality than an X-Fi for everything audio based. Ignore your friend

What you could do though, is get a soundcard like an X-Fi, then if it has an optical or coaxial connection, use that to go out to an external DAC. That way you could get all the EAX features of the X-Fi for gaming and movies, but still have the sound quality of the external DAC.



About these K601's... So they're quite fun? Does that mean they have ultra bright treble?
post #161 of 1641
For those too lazy to look up the card it is here

ExpressCard Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio Notebook SB0710EF - Sound Blaster - Your Music and Movies. Way Better.

More or less this sums it up

1/8th jack for -headphone out, line out, optical out
1/8th jack for -mic in, line in, optical in
Inbetween the jacks there is a creative little expansion plug/slot thing

That is used for this
Sound Blaster ExpressCard upgrade kit - Sound Blaster Accessories - Upgrade to multichannel surround sound for your music, movies and games

That gives full surround sound

I think he is asking if he should go bithead for better music and driving of the k601s or x-fi and have surround sound in future

To put them at same price level add a cmoy/airhead/mini3/govibe/ccbox/ibasso or some 80-100 dollar amp

He can get line out so it wont be amped and then use optical out in the future and keep all of his 3d effects
post #162 of 1641
If that's the case you can buy the PCMCIA card and an amp it that's the way you want to go. You said you have an external card reader, so you're not using a laptop? If you're using a laptop, I don't know how other components in the laptop can effect the sound from a PCMCIA card. I know that one of the major complaints about on board sound in laptops is interference from other components. I also can't imaging running 7.1 sound out of a laptop, but people must do it or they wouldn't sell the cards.

The card does offer you multiple upgrade paths, from cheap portable amp to high quality external DAC for a home system.
post #163 of 1641
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About these K601's... So they're quite fun? Does that mean they have ultra bright treble?
No! Rather rolled off actually. Its warm sounding headphone, with great midrange.
post #164 of 1641
Just wanted to add myself to this topic. Just bought the K601's and am totally in love with them. Still in the burn-in process (300hrs is really long, especially if you can't leave em on at night). Any comments on how big of an effect the burn-in process has on the 601's?

I like them already but it does seem that the test model I tried (which was burned-in) sounded better (wider soundstage).

I bought a creative soundblaster USB external, which has an optical output, so I connect it digitally to my Denon AV Receiver, sweet.

-Victor
post #165 of 1641
As I read this thread, I think I'm going to stop lusting after the 701s and lust after the 601s instead. Slightly rounded treble, nice midrange, decent soundstage... plus they're cheaper. All I need is an amp first.
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