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Yes, the pads soften up over time. The again, if one is willing to sacrifice a bit of detail/seperation for a little more bass, slightly larger soundstage, and better comfort... the K702 pads is the way to go... :wink_face: 

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I bought the k612 pro about a month ago along with the dt 880 pro. Although both are extremely comfortable, the k612 fits my small head perfect with more room around my ears. Soundwise they are similar as well on the E17/E09K. A nice even sound with no harshness and a good soundstage. Suprisingly to me, the K612 struggled with my b&b ch2/sansa fuze+ combo. The bass distorted and treble was grainy. No problems when I changed to the desktop setup.
post #1265 of 1478

They do need quite a lot of power to get them sounding really good. I have an amp that can adjust its output impedance and I find that it sounds even better at 120 ohms output impedance. It becomes just a fraction warmer without changing the pads.

 

I tried the K702 pads and it does fatten the bass up and lessens the treble quite a lot, but imo, it becomes a lesser headphone. It sounds more 'Sennheiser like' and too laid back for me. To be honest, the timbre isn't quite right with those pads - I listened to some orchestral music with them and to me, they are off in tone, whereas the stock pads seem much closer to reality to me.

 

Having said that, the K702 pads are superficially very warm and flattering to your source. Also very comfortable. However, imo, not as accurate or neutral sounding. It seems to alter other things in the spectrum as well.

post #1266 of 1478
Of course, with orchestral music the detail and seperation loss from the pad switch is going to be critical and non-beneficial. Try some bass oriented music, however, and let me know which is the "lesser" headphone, then... wink.gif

IMO, neither is "lesser" or "better," just DIFFERENT. Both different sounds benefit different genres. Having that option of two distinct sounds with just the switch of the pads, makes the K612 that much more wonderful.
Edited by Change is Good - 5/25/14 at 11:51am
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Actually, I prefer the original pads with rock too. There's more inner detail and a slight more 'stringiness' with bass guitar sounds that is much more like what I hear live in the work that I do as well. Quantity of bass is more with the K702 pads, but the headphone becomes thicker sounding.

 

Then again, each to his own eh? I did try it for an extended period. I use the amp at a higher output impedance which does have the effect of slightly calming the top end and making the bottom end just a fraction richer.

 

With the K702 pads, they do become a lot warmer though, so I can understand why many would prefer them that way, although I suspect that the pads are doing something in the mids as well. (Like reducing them)

 

As you say, just 'different' perhaps.


Edited by iancraig10 - 5/25/14 at 1:09pm
post #1268 of 1478
Rock is another instrument focused genre, so it's no surprise it goes better with the stock pads. What I meant by bass genres, are the likes of Rap/Hip Hop and such...
post #1269 of 1478

Sure specifically for that they're better... But as an all-rounder I much prefer the stock pads by quite a bit... I don't listen to hip-hop/rap much anymore.

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Originally Posted by Change is Good View Post

Rock is another instrument focused genre, so it's no surprise it goes better with the stock pads. What I meant by bass genres, are the likes of Rap/Hip Hop and such...

Oh, I see. Yes, I guess rap/hip hop type stuff would suit the K702 pads really well.

I've used the k601 for quite a long time now and switching to the K612 showed just some minor tweaking in terms of sound. It's slightly warmer than the old K601 I think.

I like the 601 and 612 a great deal and find them really useful for critical listening and monitoring of my own recordings. Very revealing but if I use them for work, they are normally eq'd and at home, I use them at this higher output impedance so they are just warmed up a fraction more.
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Whilst there's nothing wrong with either preference when it comes to stock pads or K701/2 pads, I am relieved to some degree to see others who share my opinions of the K701/2 pads; I was starting to wonder if I was going crazy considering all the praise for the K701/2 pads.

post #1272 of 1478
Can't wait until my K612 comes back from tour. Not only do I miss the sound with the K702 pads, but I am eager to see how battles against my newly acquired HP200. From memory, I believe the stock K612 and HP200 are veeeeery similar, with the K612 having a slightly larger soundstage and the HP200 being more refined.

I'll be comparing the two, thoroughly, if anyone is interested. My K612 should be back sometime next week smily_headphones1.gif
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That'll be interesting. The Soundmagic headphone has a strongish bass as well, but perhaps a better defined treble than the HD650. It's often compared with the HD650. To my ears, the K612 with K702 pads is more Senn like in sound so the comparison might be quite close!!

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HP200 is flat across the spectrum, with great extension. It is also a bit bright, similar to the stock K612. I have no idea where you are getting "stronger bass" from. These have linear bass like the stock K612, not "strong." You must be referring to the closed HP100.

The HP200 is more in the ballpark of the stock K612's sound signature, with more refinement. It is NOTHING like an HD650, which has more of an n-shaped signature. The K612 with K702 pads is nothing like the HD650 either. I don't know where your getting those assumptions from.

We all hear differently, though, so I'm not saying your wrong. If anything, to me, the stock K612 and HP200 are similar to the HD600, not the HD650. The K612 with K702 pads have slightly v-shaped sound, which make it even more distinct than the n-shaped HD650.
Edited by Change is Good - 5/30/14 at 12:55pm
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Originally Posted by Change is Good View Post

HP200 is flat across the spectrum, with great extension. It is also a bit bright, similar to the stock K612. I have no idea where you are getting "stronger bass" from. These have linear bass like the stock K612, not "strong." You must be referring to the closed HP100.

We all hear differently, though, so I'm not saying your wrong. If anything, to me, the stock K612 and HP200 are similar to the HD600, not the HD650. The K612 with K702 pads have slightly v-shaped sound, which make it even more distinct than the n-shaped HD650.

 

The HP200's sound is surprisingly warm for an open-back, perhaps even more so than the Sennheiser HD650 and the HD650 already sounds like a warm version of the near-perfect, HD600. This bass body isn't so much of an issue with the HP200 however because the treble is also quite lively. 

Although this slightly v'shaped signature works wonders with the open sound on many tracks, the treble can be it's Achilles heel. Whether you like your treble present and sparkly or subtle and laid back is going to dictate whether you love or hate this headphone. Well actually I would be surprised if anyone could really hate it.

 

This quote was taken from here: (Not my impressions) Funny that he says they're possibly 'warmer' than the HD650 with a more lively treble. I think he mentioned bass weight somewhere in the review too.

 

It looks like a nice headphone to me though.

 

http://splashurl.com/kn9f9nf

 

The K612 with K702 pads is nothing like the HD650 either. I don't know where your getting those assumptions from.

 

My 'assumptions' come from my listening to my K601, K612, HD600, HD650 and comparing directly with each other. I don't know why you assume that I'm assuming!! ;)

 

If you put a stock K612 alongside a K612 with the 702 pads, (as I did) you hear just how much the sound is altered straight away. If you put a stock K612 up against a stock K601, the K612 is a tad warmer. Slightly less edgy than the K601.

 

For me and my 'assuming' ears, the K702 pads bring the K601 much closer to the HD600, not the HD650 so much which is fatter in the bass. I said that the K612 becomes more 'Senn' like, not HD650, but more like a 600.

 

I have them all here. (Along with many other headphones, since I work with them)

 

I'm looking forward to see what you find with the HP200.


Edited by iancraig10 - 5/30/14 at 1:56pm
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