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Originally Posted by kman1211 View Post
 


It likely does. The headphone is likely partially to blame, but it's the least sibilant headphone I own. It's more of an inherent issue with most dynamics, a somewhat metallic sound to vocals to varying degrees.

I'll find out soon hopefully :cool: 

post #1172 of 1339

In case anyone here is interested...

 

Brief comparisons between the K612 w/702 pads and the K712...

  • K612 extends further down low with more presence
  • Soundstage difference is hard to really get a grasp on, but it seems the K612 is slighly wider
  • K712 has a slightly larger mid bass hump
  • K712 mids are slightly more forward
  • K712 bass is slightly more refined. Well, the whole spectrum is slightly more refined, actually...
  • K712 highs are slightly brighter
  • K712 has better instrument separation
  • K712 is slightly more comfortable due to the memory foam pads and softer leather headband

 


Edited by Change is Good - 4/4/14 at 2:16pm
post #1173 of 1339
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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post
 

I'll find out soon hopefully :cool: 


Yeah, I am curious about the HE-560. From my experience orthos and electrostats generally sound better with some exceptions. I found the better systems helps with it.

post #1174 of 1339
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Originally Posted by kman1211 View Post
 


Yeah, I am curious about the HE-560. From my experience orthos and electrostats generally sound better with some exceptions. I found the better systems helps with it.

Indeed. With the K612 it's only the frigging "S" -_- I have no complaints with the vocals as a whole.

post #1175 of 1339
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Indeed. With the K612 it's only the frigging "S" -_- I have no complaints with the vocals as a whole.

I had problems with the S as well, I found the S exaggerated on almost every dynamic I heard, I don't always notice it, but it's almost always there even when masked by darkness. It can pretty much be eliminated if you try but it takes trail and error. I also had problems with the S on the MA900, HD 650, Q701, DT 880, T1, HD 800, etc.

post #1176 of 1339
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Originally Posted by kman1211 View Post
 

I had problems with the S as well, I found the S exaggerated on almost every dynamic I heard, I don't always notice it, but it's almost always there even when masked by darkness. It can pretty much be eliminated if you try but it takes trail and error. I also had problems with the S on the MA900, HD 650, Q701, DT 880, T1, HD 800, etc.

Yeah exactly!

Though I've noticed that upfront vocals highlight that [duh!]

In contrast the Clip+ sounds less sibilant than the MStage because the vocals are much less upfront.

post #1177 of 1339
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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post
 

Yeah exactly!

Though I've noticed that upfront vocals highlight that [duh!]

In contrast the Clip+ sounds less sibilant than the MStage because the vocals are much less upfront.


I have noticed that myself. I also noticed sibilance comes in different forms, some harsher and more noticeable than others and others seem to disappear without bothering you. I like an upfront midrange, so I try to find a forward midrange without roughness. I have been experimenting with tube rolling, trying to find that perfect match for the K612. The tubes currently in my amp are a little rough in the midrange for my tastes, my other tubes are not rough or sibilant so roughness isn't a problem with the other tubes, but they are lacking in soundstage and bass presence in comparison, but I think I need to go back to my other tubes.

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Has there been any comments regarding the difference or similarities with the K601 and K612 Pro? Regardless of the whatever AKG may say, I'd like to know if they sound alike, or if they are the same internally.


I tried searching a few pages, but didn't see if there was posts comparing the two, despite the topic title being about those two, lol.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 4/10/14 at 1:18am
post #1179 of 1339
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Originally Posted by veldt View Post

I've owned a Sennheiser 600 for a while now, and now I have a AKG K612 for comparison. The Sennheiser has a wider stage and a little bit more resolution. But there's also something that didn't satisfy me and this is confirmed by the AKG K612. While the Sennheiser is tiring and making me indifferent about everything I hear, the AKG makes me listen up and actually enjoy listening to things. While the Sennheiser has a very fine resolution (apart from the slightly swallowed highs, one should say) it lacks separation and imaging (or texture). And while it can sometimes a evoke a sense of grandeur superior to the AKG (think of low choirs), everything seems to come from a horizontal plane, as opposed to a more differentiated and circumnavigating space of the AKG. To be honest, I'm not satisfied with any of them, and so far whichever I would choose would be very close and I will probably change my mind some time afterwards. I just don't have any money...

I haven't owned an HD600, but I owned an HD650. And to me it is cheaply made(for 500 dollars) uncomfortable and badly overpriced considering the fact that it lacks the transparent, realistic sound of the K612. It is very easy to listen to and has a nice sounding bass, but like most Sennheisers I have tried, the mids sound bland after a while and it just doesn't have that AKG musicality. It simply sounds more refined, that's it. Otherwise I find it has that Sennheiser "artificial timbre" to it that I don't hear with AKGs and Beyers.
post #1180 of 1339
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Has there been any comments regarding the difference or similarities with the K601 and K612 Pro? Regardless of the whatever AKG may say, I'd like to know if they sound alike, or if they are the same internally.


I tried searching a few pages, but didn't see if there was posts comparing the two, despite the topic title being about those two, lol.

Zombie compared it to his K601 when I sent it in for modding. He said its almoast completely identical... except the K612 has a little more bass.
post #1181 of 1339

despite my earlier confused impressions with 612pro, I'm loving my 612pro so far, it simply outclassed my ma900 so far, I never thought I d say that.. lol . may be I need to revisit my 612 review and give it 5 stars, because it's truly deserve that rating.

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despite my earlier confused impressions with 612pro, I'm loving my 612pro so far, it simply outclassed my ma900 so far, I never thought I d say that.. lol . may be I need to revisit my 612 review and give it 5 stars, because it's truly deserve that rating.

I've been meaning to do a big review for the AKGs like I did for my old Senns (link in sig), but it just wouldn't look serious because I'm not sure I can actually fault these headphones!

post #1183 of 1339
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I've been meaning to do a big review for the AKGs like I did for my old Senns (link in sig), but it just wouldn't look serious because I'm not sure I can actually fault these headphones!

I can :veryevil:

So I will eventually. :D

post #1184 of 1339
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Originally Posted by Change is Good View Post


Zombie compared it to his K601 when I sent it in for modding. He said its almoast completely identical... except the K612 has a little more bass.


That's basically been my finding too, the K612 has a bit more bass.

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Originally Posted by kraken2109 View Post
 

I've been meaning to do a big review for the AKGs like I did for my old Senns (link in sig), but it just wouldn't look serious because I'm not sure I can actually fault these headphones!


There is some grain in the upper registers, although it's not really there on some systems. The 2khz region can be a bit hard and brash on some systems as well. The headphones issues can pretty much be eliminated with the right synergy. If the headphones have a good pairing, it's hard to fault the headphones so I know what you mean by that.

post #1185 of 1339

Loving mine, the K702 pads really complete them. Plus I reckon given their typical signature, the amp used really makes a difference too. I have a Titanium HD and swapped out some opamps twice until I found what really worked for me...tinkering with the peripherals around the K612 Pro's can turn them into a whole different beast for not much $$$.

 

Good value headphones. 

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