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post #1021 of 1641
Part number for the angled pads is 2458M12020
post #1022 of 1641
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Originally Posted by Change is Good View Post

Part number for the angled pads is 2458M12020

 

Thank you.

 

I take it the bumps on the Q701 and 601 cans were one piece with the head strap. If so, does that head strap have it's own part number?

post #1023 of 1641

I've been using 612pro for few days now, so far having some mixed feeling about this. I hate to be negative, but may be my Fiio E17 or Phoebus might not good enough with this, comfort wise this is not even close to MA900. I know my earpads are not still soft enough, but this is like torchure with my glasses on. MA900 is completely in a different league in terms on comfort for me. even my cheap htf600 is far more comfortable.

 

sound quality wise (comparing with ma900) 612pro has more detailed bass and treble (without siblence), but I ended up liking ma900's warmer mids by far. the biggest issue with the 612pro is, some instruments sound so weirdly distant, creating lesser intimate environment, had the same issue with vocals as well. may be that's just the way it is. female vocals sound so sweetly intimate on ma900. even on my Moto G ma900 sounds so great just like with Fiio E17. to me MA900 is a easy choice against 612pro (if you dont have a high end dac/amp).

 

612pro could be slightly more refine than ma900, could probably sound far better with higher grade DAC. but overall under $200 I can't recommend this to anyone if you dont already have any high-end DAC/AMP.

 

Build quality is far more better with 612pros but whats the point of build quality or sound quality, if it's not comfortable.. hadn't had much time to do much gaming with 612pros. but clearly I prefer ma900 for gaming too for its massive soundstage. imagine could be far more accurate on 612pros s but as I said before some instruments and vocals sounding so distant ruined it for me.


Edited by appsmarsterx - 2/7/14 at 10:55pm
post #1024 of 1641
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Originally Posted by appsmarsterx View Post

I've been using 612pro for few days now, so far having some mixed feeling about this. I hate to be negative, but may be my Fiio E17 or Phoebus might not good enough with this, comfort wise this is not even close to MA900. I know my earpads are not still soft enough, but this is like torchure with my glasses on. MA900 is completely in a different league in terms on comfort for me. even my cheap htf600 is far more comfortable.

sound quality wise (comparing with ma900) 612pro has more detailed bass and treble (without siblence), but I ended up liking ma900's warmer mids by far. the biggest issue with the 612pro is, some instruments sound so weirdly distant, creating lesser intimate environment, had the same issue with vocals as well. may be that's just the way it is. female vocals sound so sweetly intimate on ma900. even on my Moto G ma900 sounds so great just like with Fiio E17. to me MA900 is a easy choice against 612pro.

612pro could be slightly more refine than ma900, could probably sound far better with higher grade DAC. but overall under $200 I can't recommend this to anyone if you dont already have any high-end DAC/AMP.

Build quality is far more better with 612pros but whats the point of build quality or sound quality, if it's not comfortable.. hadn't had much time to do much gaming with 612pros. but clearly I prefer ma900 for gaming too for its massive soundstage. imagine could be far more accurate on 612pros s but as I said before some instruments and vocals sounding so distant ruined it for me.

Honestly, you're doing the 612 disjustice with the E17. Something more powerful like a desktop amp or E12 would be more ideal...
post #1025 of 1641

yes.. that's probably true. I probably need better dac/amp . so clearly E17 and 612pro is not an ideal combo. I might try with more powerful amp later. for now I might have to stick with E17 for a while.

post #1026 of 1641

The comfort gets better with time as the pads soften up, it took them a few weeks for me to consider them about as comfortable as the MA900. I am a glasses wearer myself. The K612 need an amp that is at least on the slightly forward side to sound it's best. It can sound oddly distant and lacking impact on some setups. The K612 tends to do pretty well with Schiit amps. The K612 and the amp of the EF2A is an incredible pairing for it's price range, the MA900 also sounds really good on it, it's the system I did the comparison of the MA900 and K612.

post #1027 of 1641

thanks kman. I might probably try this with EF2A later since I'm not planning to sell this. but unfortunately for now. that's little out of budget for me atm.

post #1028 of 1641
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thanks kman. I might probably try this with EF2A later since I'm not planning to sell this. but unfortunately for now. that's little out of budget for me atm.

 

What's within your budget? Like I mentioned, the E12 drives the K612 quite nicley (and much better than the E17), IMO... and is quite affordable 

post #1029 of 1641

The EF2A doesn't have that good of a dac though, I recommend it as a standalone amp personally, it's a good amp for it's price, the dac is just mediocre. My experience with AKGs is that you often need to spend time with them for comfort and that they are picky but also very rewarding if you are willing to work with them. The MA900 is a really good headphone and one of my favorite pairs around $200(sadly now discontinued) and I would recommend it over the K612 if you don't have a powerful system and a decent dac because it's so easy to work with. With a good system the K612 pulls ahead of the MA900. I see, I'm on a tight budget myself, maybe there is something else that works well that is within or will soon be within in your budget.


Edited by kman1211 - 2/7/14 at 11:29pm
post #1030 of 1641

thanks. I ll consider E12 too. and will update my impressions later. my impressions are just only based on with E17, so I hope you all understand my point in my early impressions.

post #1031 of 1641
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Originally Posted by appsmarsterx View Post
 

thanks. I ll consider E12 too. and will update my impressions later. my impressions are just only based on with E17, so I hope you all understand my point in my early impressions.

 

Point understood, that's why no one is bashing... but rather suggesting a better power source... :beerchug:

post #1032 of 1641

Weird, I wear glasses and find the 612 pro very comfy.

post #1033 of 1641
The Mstage is a very good pairing with both too...
post #1034 of 1641

I am starting to think the Fiio E11 is a bit wasted with my Xonar DG. 

 

 

Volume isn't so much a bonus with the E11, rather I was thinking that it would add punch and put authority behind the cans, but I can't tell any difference between the two methods.

Additionally, having to recharge the E11 is a pain. I will test the current mode in low and see if that conserves much battery.


Edited by Saraya - 2/12/14 at 10:15am
post #1035 of 1641

Furthering last post concerning replacing the E11, I know I want to keep an internal DAC if possible and couple it with the desktop amplifier.

Though I couldn't find any feedback on hybrid tubes like the Schiit Vali versus for example a JDS O2. I mention tubes because of the great relationship between them and AKG K headphones.

 

 

Is the Vali a fair place to start, or not strong enough from the tube side of things? I know K612s are hard to drive but...Vali seems capable.

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