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sr60vs sr80 vs sr225 vs ms1

post #1 of 13
1/11/07 at 2:20pm
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??? highs, lows, details, soundstage, refinement, fun (musicality) 1-10 rating
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post #2 of 13
1/11/07 at 2:37pm
SR225>MS1>SR60>SR80 (not as fun and more fatiguing than SR60 imo)

The MS1 is almost as good the SR225, so I wouldn't recommend getting the SR225 unless you have a good source and amp. For the money you simply cannot do better than the MS1 so that's what I recommend. Only get the SR225 if you can get 'em for a good price
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post #3 of 13
1/11/07 at 5:01pm
MS-1, no question. The entire SR60-325 are just bad headphones to my ears, they just make my ears bleed. The MS-1 is much better than all of them in any given way (starting with not making my ears bleed).
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post #4 of 13
1/11/07 at 5:16pm
Deleted, double post
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post #5 of 13
1/11/07 at 5:17pm
I love the forward sound of the grado sr80's and don't find it the least bit fatiguing, but don't take my word for it. Sound is a subjective matter and the best way to decide is to use your ears.
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post #6 of 13
1/11/07 at 5:32pm
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Originally Posted by KT88 View Post
MS-1, no question. The entire SR60-325 are just bad headphones to my ears, they just make my ears bleed. The MS-1 is much better than all of them in any given way (starting with not making my ears bleed).
Hmmm. While I agree with you on the SR60/80/125/325, I haven't heard the 325i and I certainly wouldn't say the SR225. I'm a Senn fan and pretty sensitive to brightness, but the SR225 beats the MS1 on every consideration I can think of except price. The difference between the SR60 to RS1 is less than the top and bottom models of most manufactures, but if the SR225 is half way from the SR60 to the RS1, the MS1 is half way from the SR60 to the SR225. I personally think along with the HD580 and KSC75, the MS1 is probably the best bang for buck phone and because of the highs issue I don't recommend anything below it. It's just not better than the SR225 (and SR325 except on brightness). For the record I've owned the SR80, SR225, MS1, HF1 and GS1K.
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post #7 of 13
1/11/07 at 5:46pm
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I've got a sr60 now, and I am really happy with them (great, warm sound) but I was just wondering if 3 other mentioned cans would be better enough to 'taste' them

Of course if there was any opportunity to buy sr225 I would grab it but 200$ is too expensive for me now after purchasing hd595, so I am seriously thinking about MS1 - but is it actually upstep or sidestep from sr60? Could I really 'feel' the difference between these two cans or it is not worth to switch one for another but wait and buy sr225?
I mean what more can they offer than sr60's do? I am afraid that ms1 won't bring me 'fun' of sr60's...but maybe I am wrong.
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post #8 of 13
1/12/07 at 5:11am
The MS1 is perhaps slightly more refined sounding in the top in comparison to the sr60. I have both and tend to use the MS1 more often. The sr60 just has a bit more edge. I presume that you're using foam pads though so the sound will be less edgy and more bassy - those pads kind of take a little detail away and my comparison is with bowls on both sr60 and the MS1. The bowls open up the sound.

While I find them both excellent, I do however feel a sense of relief going back to Senns or Beyers because that edginess can get a bit too much for me.

The sr60 is right in your face and an exciting headphone to listen to, but in my case, for short periods only.

Ian
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post #9 of 13
1/12/07 at 8:59am
I wouldn't recommend organizing an MS1 or a higher Grado when you've already got an SR60 and like it. This would only turn out to be more of the same, for ridiculus high amounts of currency. If you want to develop into a multi-headphone person, most reasonable appraoch is a collection of specialists for certain jobs.

I'd look out for something completely different, depending on the music styles you listen to. Maybe a big circumaural Beyer or Senn. Don't know about the HD595, IMO it's very boring beyond mainstream and acoustical stuff.
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post #10 of 13
1/12/07 at 2:06pm
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I wouldn't recommend organizing an MS1 or a higher Grado when you've already got an SR60 and like it. This would only turn out to be more of the same, for ridiculus high amounts of currency. If you want to develop into a multi-headphone person, most reasonable appraoch is a collection of specialists for certain jobs.
Well I do not want to be multi-headphone person, my wallet won't like it:P I like my Grado, and on one hand I'd like to go on and buy something like sr60's only better, on the other hand law of diminishing returns is what I am afraid of
I do not mind sr60's high's, I think it's charming and something different than other headphones and give me an impression of extra - detail, so ms1 softened highs could make me feel boring...
sr225 are called 'sweet spot' in Grado line-up, but I'd like to know if difference between them would be really noticable or again I will have to purchase better source for that.

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I'd look out for something completely different, depending on the music styles you listen to. Maybe a big circumaural Beyer or Senn. Don't know about the HD595, IMO it's very boring beyond mainstream and acoustical stuff.
HD595 are technically superior to sr60's (I am not sure how they perform in comparison to sr225) but they are missing something and I don't know what it is...maybe my soundcard, maybe cable hooked up to my amplifier
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post #11 of 13
1/12/07 at 2:24pm
Rather a MS1 then. SR225s cost freaking much in the EU...and their "genre bandwidth" isn't as huge as the MS1's.

The MS1 is one of the most "unboring" and lively cans I know. Take into consideration that I have K81/DT770 Boombiters and DT531 Groovelizers here as well as the "rocking" 60 Ohm Koss Models. If I was "sentenced" to spend the rest of my life with only one of my cans, I'd take the MS1 without hesitation.
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post #12 of 13
1/12/07 at 3:58pm
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Rather a MS1 then. SR225s cost freaking much in the EU...and their "genre bandwidth" isn't as huge as the MS1's.

The MS1 is one of the most "unboring" and lively cans I know. Take into consideration that I have K81/DT770 Boombiters and DT531 Groovelizers here as well as the "rocking" 60 Ohm Koss Models. If I was "sentenced" to spend the rest of my life with only one of my cans, I'd take the MS1 without hesitation.
Can't help but agree with all points! The cost of the SR-225 is prohibitive in Europe, and the genre bandwidth of the MS-1 covers all but the biggest of the classical pieces.

I can also agree with the "rest of my life" point as well! I liked my MS-1s so much that I wanted just a little more of the same. So I got the MS2i and am absolutely excited with them. Certainly lifelong keepers!! But they have the same "sound" as the MS-1s, just a bit more of it!

An amp wasn't mentioned. Uh, that's ok, one isn't needed with MS-1. Also, depending on what kind of source you're listening to, you can get either 1/8 or 1/4" plug.

Yeah; good stuff!
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post #13 of 13
1/13/07 at 9:45am
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Of course if there was any opportunity to buy sr225 I would grab it but 200$ is too expensive for me
Wait a minute, shooter: are you saying that although you're in Poland, you can get your hands on Grados at the US price? Well then problem solved. Don't get the MS-1, get original Grado, the best you can possibly afford. There's no risk, as local market rates willl make it easy to recoup at least what you paid if you decide you don't need them after all. Plus then you'll have done the headphone world a service by bringing over one more cheapish Grado for the huddled EU masses yearning to breathe free.
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