Maybe it was Jamato8, I am confused. Sorry.
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1/4/09 at 8:26pm
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Hi Skylab,
First, must say I fully agree with everything said about and am loving the pretty spectacular P-51 Second, was just wondering, being a bit of a basshead myself (I know, sorry ), which of your top rated amps would tend to favour bassheads (Slight, lol), if not actually the P-51. Interested to know which of your top few have the most/biggest bass punch, though loving what the P-51 is doing. |

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Update 1/4/09
HeadphoneAddict was nice enough to loan me the 3 following amps for review. While all three incorporate USB DACs, and I did very briefly listen to their USB DACs, the comments below refer to them being used ONLY as headphone amps, driven by my iMod iPod from their analog inputs. HeadphoneAddict has done the definitive review of these products as DAC/AMPs, and my review has only ever been about them as portable amps. [snip] > NuForce Icon Mobile Nuforce, Inc The NuForce Icon is incredibly light, and fairly small. It’s also very cheaply built. It has no actual power switch, but comes on when you plug in headphones – which I don’t like. It has a gain switch, which is hard to operate. Build Quality: B-: See above. It was also fussy in terms of its headphone jacks. I know it’s wrong to expect much build quality from a $99 amp/DAC, but you sure don’t get it. Treble: B: Piercing, bright, aggressive, and somewhat unclean treble compared to any of the better amps here. Not truly dreadful in absolute terms, but the amps main liability. Unless you have VERY dark, rolled off headphones, BE CAREFUL. The NuForce’s treble is kind of scary. Downright unpleasant with my Beyer headphones. Better with the AT ESW9’s, but they are pretty forgiving. Midrange: B+: Slightly forward, and with a noticeable chalky grain. Decent, but not great. Vocals have some extra presence which is can be nice, but is not real. Bass: A-: The bass was very good. Both powerful and deep. Not world class, but not as problematic as the above Neutrality: B: Generally not very neutral. Forward and bright sounding. VERY careful headphone matching will be needed, and with something like the Ultrasone 780, it will be just plain awful. Soundstaging: A-: Convincing image stability, and reasonable width combined with excellent depth give it a good score here. Transparency: B+: At times it seemed very transparent, and with other material, it was not at all. The aggressive, forward sound signature just didn’t give the illusion of transparency. I guess the best thing I can say about the NuForce is it’s cheap. But I didn’t really care for its sound. My recommendation is to save your money for something better. |
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I had the very good fortune of spending some time at skylab's place (and what a nice place it was!); with a brief amount of time (about an hour) with my RS2's, I would lean more toward what headphoneaddict heard w/ the Nuforce. Nuforce not quite as refined in the mids and highs, a little aggressive and edgy, but not terrible, and very good in other realms. Considering its price and minuscule size, I quite liked it! I REALLY liked skylab's 2Move A LOT. I thought the iBasso's were fine, but I wasn't bowled over by them. A little too polite, a little lacking in detail, IMHO.
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I read that the Denon D2000/D5000 don't improve much with amping. In regards to the Denon D2000, how did the Predator fare over the Pico? I'm having trouble deciding between the two amps having never heard either one. My source is my PC and my headphones are the D5000s, and since the amping may not improve my headphones much, would I be better off with the better DAC? Or do amps still change the acoustics of the music even if the headphone doesn't use all the power?
I have an iBasso D3, but the RF problem has left me in search of a different amp. I definitely notice that the DAC does make a difference in the audio quality compared to the on-board sound card. I'm sure the amp aspect contributes as well, but I'm mostly sure it's the DAC that makes the largest difference. |
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1) I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY ON THE D3 and D2 REVIEW. Like you, I also like the Meier Headsix/XXS a little more than the D2 boa. Then again, I also liked the D3 and TTVJ just a little more than the Headsix (though still a little below the Pico/Predator/3MOVE). We don't have to agree on everything, especially when the amps in 1st - 8th place are so close.
3) With the Nuforce review I didn't think it was as bad as you did. I didn't feel the highs were piercing - bright and aggressive yes, but not shrill. I also didn't think the mids were chalky as much as they were forward and a little etched at times. With headphones that are recessed in the mids this helps bring out better midrange definition, like with D2000. Also, the case was redesigned to allow more headphones to fit, and anyone who bought from the first batch before 12/16 can get a free case replacement. |

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I had the very good fortune of spending some time at skylab's place (and what a nice place it was!); with a brief amount of time (about an hour) with my RS2's, I would lean more toward what headphoneaddict heard w/ the Nuforce. Nuforce not quite as refined in the mids and highs, a little aggressive and edgy, but not terrible, and very good in other realms. Considering its price and minuscule size, I quite liked it! I REALLY liked skylab's 2Move A LOT. I thought the iBasso's were fine, but I wasn't bowled over by them. A little too polite, a little lacking in detail, IMHO.
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