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post #31 of 87
Depends on the hardware unfortunately. For example, my previous PS Audio GCHA could only use ASIO4ALL (another wrapper type driver) whereas my Edirol UA-1EX interface has its own true ASIO 2.0 drivers.
post #32 of 87
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Just a brief update. I am still using the built in amp but I can hear pretty big changes in the degree of seperation and clarity. Soundstage has improved and expanded. All in all, might be a better DAC than the Zhalou in some respects. Dunno b/c I am going on memory and using wildly different headphones but yeah I like it. Sabbath sounds spot on.
post #33 of 87
if fauxasio isn't bit perfect then whats the point of it at all?
post #34 of 87
Point taken. I am not sure if the faux ASIO is not bitperfect, or simply a sloppy wrapper of kernel streaming which is nonetheless bitperfect. Either way though, let's not forget that the MD10 has numerous other inputs so even if not used solely as a USB interface it still seems to be astonishingly good value.
post #35 of 87
spacemanspliff, re-reading the thread I realized that you haven't posted which input you're actually using. Are you using USB or one of the SPDIF inputs? Do you have the ability to try both? If so, does the sound change at all?

Sorry for all the questions, this unit is still at the top of my current short list and I'll be in a position to pick it up in the next week or so.
post #36 of 87
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optical from my sony dvd/cd player and coaxial from my X-Fi Elite Pro.

usb? naw I never use it sorry.

this unit appears to be well built and trouble free. it does have a certain color to it soundwise but I like it. seperation is there, detail, punch, etc all vast improvements over both of those sources.

Worth the $$ IMO

In the under $300 price range it should be considered.
post #37 of 87
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A word of advice- do not listen to it before burn in and expect to hear anything close to what it will sound like. Completely different level of sound quality in regards to soundstage, seperation and detail.

It sounded like muddy ass at first to me but now I can live happily with it.....until I get some more $$ together lol.
post #38 of 87
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Ok. this DAC has better seperation than the Zhalou now. Soundstage is going to vertical now too. I have upper, middle, and lower left and right now. With Zepplin I can hear the seperate mixed in voice tracks at times clearly defined upstairs left while at the same time the other track middle right. This is true for instruments as well. You really hear what the engineers intended to be heard not the mashed up pile most folks hear on their Bose. Really cool DAC. This is all with the built in amp too lol. I CANNOT wait until the Darkvoice 332 get's here!
post #39 of 87
This is really starting to get interesting.

Are you using the internal amp? Which amp did you use with the Zhalou?

Edit: Reread your last post and I see your using the internal amp.
Isn't it hard to compare dacs using different amps. You wouldn't know which sound comes from the dac and which from the amp. (?)
If you where using Zhalou's amp then that could be a huge limitation as I've read that it isn't *that* good.
post #40 of 87
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naw with the Zhalou I used a 708B and a Meier Prehead in addition to the built in amp. The Zhalou has more "air" but isn't as intimate and emotional as the MD 10 imo. The MD 10 at stock is simply a full bodied DAC with plenty of headroom for modding. Hell, if it sounds this good with just the internal amp it's going to be unbelievable for the $$ with a decent amp.
post #41 of 87
How is the tonality of the sound. You said that it matched what PV said about it. And they say that it's detailed warm and dynamic. If that is the case I would like it I think. I don't want anything bright as my grado do that so well by themselves. :P
post #42 of 87
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it's warm and not too bright. the highs are there but it's very easy to listen to for long periods and my Darth's are considered to be bright cans so yeah. there could be improvements of course. there's always room for that!

but for the $$ there are few options out there. It's a quality product imo. Small, well built and easy to use.
post #43 of 87
This dac looks really flexible with all it's input's to bad it doesn't have dual outputs though, as then it would have everything I would ever want in a dac (if it also sounds good that is).

I must go to bed now I think as the clock is 04.02 AM here in sweden. :/
But I will send PV a mail tomorrow (when I wake up I mean ) and ask for shipping and payment details. =)
post #44 of 87
Woohoo - mine is ordered and being shipped as we speak

Alucard - I wanted to point out that it may be worth looking at COEM Audio too. Their price is similar to PV but a) they keep stock of 220V versions so no 6 week waiting period; and b) shipping is cheaper. To give you an example, I was quoted the equivalent of around $60 shipping to me in South Africa; PV quoted $125 for shipping!

Not trying to bash them or anything as I know they have a great reputation, but for international buyers it may be more cost-effective considering the lower shipping cost and the voltage.

Cheers,
X
post #45 of 87
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Originally Posted by xenithon View Post
Woohoo - mine is ordered and being shipped as we speak

Alucard - I wanted to point out that it may be worth looking at COEM Audio too. Their price is similar to PV but a) they keep stock of 220V versions so no 6 week waiting period; and b) shipping is cheaper. To give you an example, I was quoted the equivalent of around $60 shipping to me in South Africa; PV quoted $125 for shipping!

Not trying to bash them or anything as I know they have a great reputation, but for international buyers it may be more cost-effective considering the lower shipping cost and the voltage.

Cheers,
X

well hell yes that makes sense. how the F??? can shipping be that much? I mean from CHINA it's 60-70 usd for an amp to be shipped and they weigh more and are in a bigger box.
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