YUIN PK2 .... Earbud KILLER !!!! (mini review) - Page 7

Lol, elephas... where do you live? Taipei? Tian Mu? I'll go help u wipe out your harddrive... see if you like that? ^^

Stop being racist.

China makes crap we all know that. But there is a fact that you don't realize, China also makes good quality products. It all depends on the factory, management, and company that are building the products. Crap comes out of American companies too. In fact, all companies have duds and problem products. China just has more cheap labor so EVERYONE USES CHINESE MANUFACTURING. Which means, ALL THE BLAME IS PLACED ON CHINA SINCE ALMOST EVERYTHING IS MADE IN CHINA.

If 75% of the products on the market are labeled "made in China" and 2% of all the goods on the market Chinese and non-Chinese are duds, then 75% of the 2% might as well also be from China due to the sheer volume of Chinese made products.

This isn't really about race.

Anyone is entitled to thinking products made in a particular country is good or bad. This is a general impression and can change over time.

In the eighties, "Made in Japan" wasn't as highly regarded as today and impressions changed as they improved. Similarly to "Made in S. Korea" and "Made in Taiwan" and others.

In the computer and consumer electronics industries, it has become less and less relevant to consumers where a product is manufactured, and even that can be unclear. What's important remains the design, performance, build quality, support and all the other factors making a product good or bad. Country of manufacture tells us very little about those factors.

I'm inclined to give the PK1 and PK2 the benefit of the doubt, especially if many members try them and think they sound good.
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Nenso, I also wouldn't like to lose a hard drive to a crash. That's why backups and redundancy are important. I just don't think anime avi's are important, though I did once, a long long time ago. Not avi's either, but crappy VHS.

anyone owns an early Playstation console? Those were made in Japan. And the cd lens don't last long, the console had overheating problems (lagging FMW) etc etc.

sometimes, the amount of work that went into a product matters more than its country of origin.

It could also be said, that many things made in china, like said harddrive, is made via an industrial device, that was very likely to have been made in the USA or Europe... chew on that for a while. But I bet those are the ones that continue to work tho, unlike said harddrive mentioned before which may have been made from a machine source from somewhere else.

And the programmed robotic machine sources are controlled by computers that probably have a Chinese hard-drive!

hmmm... if the pk2 and pk1 were price at $40 and $80, I might be more inclined to give them a try, but at their current price... no. Or if they look more like the Audio Technicas... oh well, i don't really have a need for earbuds right now anyways.

If I've ever bought headphones on a whim, this is it. After reading about someone's Yuin PK2's in another thread, I immediately searched Head-fi for "Yuin", happened on this thread, skimmed it for a couple minutes, then went to Head-Direct and bought a pair. All in a matter of 10 minutes. If there's one type of headphone that I really could use, its a good set of earbuds.

I really don't own a pair of headphones I feel comfortable just wearing around - my AKG 26p's are closed and take too much time folding and unfolding and fitting each time (not to mention they are annoying to wear with a hat and arent really pocketable), my shure e3's are iems obviously and I really don't enjoy walking around and being shut-off to the world (and having the hassle of taking out one of them to talk to someone, and then squishing the foamie to stick it back in), and I don't like the profile of the KSC-75s and the extra time it takes to hook them around my big ears every time.

Even though I can't bear to use them, I have always secretly envied everyone who just uses the iBuds. I think earbuds are by far the least hassle of any type of headphone. They the smallest, lightest, pocketable, and I won't feel obligated to take them off to talk to someone since they are so small and still let you be fully aware of your surroundings. Hopefully they'll be here in a couple of days (mail from NYC to NJ shouldn't take but a day or two). Really looking forward to these and being able to walk around with my ipod again.

wow, i skipped to the last page to avoid the stupid manufactureing country debate, wait 20 years, nothing will be made in the usa except us military contracts and the debate will be over.


about headphones, fang from head-direct was at the philadelphia meet this weekend, and gave everyone there the opportunety to listen to these headphones. i was extremely impressed with a set of ear buds,, and if i could stand earbuds in my ears for more than 10 minutes i would have more to say, the truth is that my ears just don't like any hard plastic buds,... but they are some seriously good sounding earbuds....
fang, thanks

You are right, it's not about race, but everything about cultural and societal stereotypes. No one person is offended by these remarks. An entire society of 1,000,000,000+ people is stigmatized by some random guy's unfounded opinion, when the product is produced by probably less than 100 people in total.

Let's do the math: He's implying, based on his *unfounded* opinion of a product produced by that 0.00001%, what the 99.99999% must also be like. That's not stereotyping, that's just plain ignorance!

FWIW, the quality of a product has everything to do with the methodology of quality control, and not where it's made or who makes it. Witness the Toyota/Honda cars made in America, by the very same UAW workers as GM & Ford, but using the Toyota/Honda quality control system. They are every bit as high in quality as their Japanese made cousins; actually I recently read that they may have lower rate of defect than those made in Japan. So all these talks about "American cars low in quality" has nothing to do with America the country, or Americans the workers, but everything to do with GM, Ford, and Chrysler's lagging attitude towards quality. Same harm from ignorant generalization, just towards our society in this case.

We should just learn that this kind of stereotyping is illogical, groundless, and harmful, no matter who it's targetted at.

Just some thoughts, on all days, MLK day...

I think one can hold the opinion that products made in China are inferior to products made elsewhere without it being a race issue.

It may be an unfounded, illogical and misguided opinion, but it is not necessarily based on racism.

Not everything on Martin Luther King, Jr. Day has to be about race.

We're talking about a set of earbuds here...

Was he talking about just earbuds? He seems to be not making an opinion on just the earbuds. Given the lack of clarity in the thinking, I don't think we'll be too surprise that he holds the same bias against American cars, British food, and all Chinese products.

One can hold any opinions one choose. Some may point it out to him why he should reconsider those views; some may defend him; yet others may just be ambivalent about the whole thing.

And racism is such a loaded word, which is one of the reasons I didn't use the term. But his view is certainly prejudicial from what I can surmise. And on MLK Jr. Day, prejudice was very much on my mind.

sorry to bump this old thread. just got my pk2 and a search on google turned up this hilarious thread. guess a lot of people are eating their words now. lol. the pk2 is indeed amazing for the price and the ummm..... looks.

i am surprised that some people do not judge a product by its quality, but by where it was made.

I wonder what is manufactured in U.S now.

I hate furthering this subject but I have to say something most of the media and people miss. I use to date a girl who works for a production company in NYC that deals with Chinese factories on a regular basis.

Guidelines of cost, material, testing is passed to the factories (most of the time in China) by production coordinator, who are usually an employee of the production company of licensed item (ie. Calvin Klein, Disney, Hasbro, Western Digital, etc.). So for a widget with a budget of 1.00 a piece. In order to hit that mark the production coordinator must choose materials that will come under that mark. There are a range of tests (some mandatory by the US Gov't for children's accessories) that the initial prototype (sample) can be put through, the production coordinator has to decide if that process will fit under the budget. China gets the order, they just do what the production companies in the US ask them to do. The production companies has to pass them through the licensing company (Disney, WD, etc.) So we're just blaming the last person that touched it, but we no it's not always their fault.