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How much is Grado sr80 better than sr60

post #1 of 12
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I have been a happy owner of Grado sr60's for 3 months. I think this can is unbelievably pleasent and natural sounding in this price range. I have also HD595 but I use it only at home. Of course I am really happy with sr60 but I think bass is a bit insufficient to my needs. I've heard many times that sr80 are tad better in a bass department and soundstage (because of bowls).
Should I give a shot to sr80, or MS1 to enhance the soundstage, bass strenght and impact, or maybe it would be better to buy bowls (what I read on the forum sr60+bowls = 95%*sr80).
post #2 of 12
The difference between an SR60 and and 80 would not be worth the purchase. There is an appreciable improvement in the MS-1 though.
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Originally Posted by dulath View Post
The difference between an SR60 and and 80 would not be worth the purchase. There is an appreciable improvement in the MS-1 though.
Which pads do you prefer on your sr60 ad ms1 dulath? and what this improvement from sr60 to ms1 is about? (is there a bass improvement too? -i am afraid of ms1 laid-back signature) All I am ask for is 10-20% more bass and 10% more soundstage with the similar sound signature (of sr60). I mean sth like enhanced sr60 for portable usage.
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Which pads do you prefer on your sr60 ad ms1 dulath? and what this improvement from sr60 to ms1 is about? (is there a bass improvement too? -i am afraid of ms1 laid-back signature) All I am ask for is 10-20% more bass and 10% more soundstage with the similar sound signature (of sr60). I mean sth like enhanced sr60 for portable usage.
I would not say the MS-1 has a laid back signature. It has the same in-your-face, forward presentation as the other Grados, but with a more refined, detailed sound. It also tames the highs so they aren't as fatiguing. There isn’t *more* bass, but it’s more detailed and controlled. The MS-1 is essentially the polite, well-mannered cousin to the SR-60, but it still has the familiar Grado house sound.

As far as soundstage, yes, it definitely has at least 10% more than the SR-60. I've only used the stock comfies and Sennheiser HD414 pads, so I can't comment to the bowls.
post #5 of 12
Bowls are my preference with all 3 cans discussed so far. With the right amplification and sources they are plenty bassy IMHO. The added air and soundstage from the bowl pads is an added bonus.
post #6 of 12
I personally prefer the SR60 to the SR80 - much like I prefer the SR225 to the SR325i.

I really like what the SR60 can do with bowls - a very appreciable upgrade, IMO, for very little investment.

[EDIT] Useless post without stating WHY I prefer the SR60, sorry. Much as the 60 is a little rougher around the edges (SR80's biggest sonic upgrade is that they are better behaved, tighter), I like their presentation: Bright, with a fat, sloppy bass response. They're just more "fun" and for the subtle quality increases in the 80, it just isn't worth the money to me.

My personal take on it is that the SR80 is a great option for people debating between which of the two headphones to buy, but for folks who already own and enjoy the SR60, it's a useless upgrade (unless you climb higher up the Grado ladder).
post #7 of 12
With my 325i, bowls are TORTURE devices! They also don't seem to provide much bass. Grado folks have been telling me that bass, comfort, and soundtage are totally dependant on your ears. You have to try several types of pads and figure out what you like the most.

Some say that flats provide more bass/ better comfort. I've ordered Sennheiser HD414 pads for my 325is. Some say that they're the best at bass. They would also be the ones closest to your comfies for comfort. Aparently, they're thicker and more soft then the comfies.....so they're better at bringing out bass.
post #8 of 12
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With my 325i, bowls are TORTURE devices! They also don't seem to provide much bass. Grado folks have been telling me that bass, comfort, and soundtage are totally dependant on your ears.
Wrong amp there dude!! wait till you hear them on that PPX Slam... a whole new Grado-world awaits you.
post #9 of 12
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I really like what the SR60 can do with bowls - a very appreciable upgrade, IMO, for very little investment
yape, if you live in USA though, if You live in central Europe, where sr80 costs 170$, bowls 30$ and you earn 3$ per hour as an accounting associate (yeah....that's true) - purchase of even cheap pads seems worth consideration.
I have HD-414 pads, but it seems they sounds slightly different than comfies, more bass but highs are tamed in the way I don't like it. (not enough fun)
reversed and modded hd414 are more detailed, soundstage is bigger, sound clearer but bass is not there..., even in comparison to comfies).

Of course these are impressions that gave my portable Iriver IFP, and I'd like to be more specific - I'm searching for cans (mods) that make me happier with portable rig, for a decent money, for a home rig I use my finest hd595
post #10 of 12
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Wrong amp there dude!! wait till you hear them on that PPX Slam... a whole new Grado-world awaits you.
The SLAM just got here!!!! It's doing wonders with my HD595s: those are turning out to be some real rockers!!! Still waiting on the pads for my 325i.....the bowls just press down too much on my ears and are just PAINFUL!!! But I can put them on for a few minutes. Actually, with the tubes that the SLAM has now, there's some great stuff hapening with the HD595. The 325is need less speed and more bass. You have any tube recommendations for them Kramer? I've got the stock 6SN7 socket and a 6CG7 adapter. The combo that's turning the HD595s into beasts are the Tung Sol D 5687s and Sylvania 6CG7.

Of course an amp upgrade can do a lot more then upgrading a headphone
post #11 of 12
Hi,
I first bought the sr80 because I heard my friend's sr60 and liked it a lot. I ended up liking the sr60, however, because certain things were airier sounding, like they were wrapped in air and made very breezy. I think this has something to do with him having bowls, but I'm not sure.

=]
post #12 of 12
If you want bass get flats.

I would go
SR60-->SR225
or
SR60-->SR60 w/flats
or
SR60-->SR60 w/Sennheiser HD414 pads
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