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post #61 of 78
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being unable to debate effectively.
i am the master debator!
post #62 of 78
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A deal is a deal is a deal. You have 2 lawyers as moderators on this forum. I'm very surprised(?) they have not participated on this thread to give some pro bono advice. Shame on them! Usually saying oops I made an error doesn't fly in Uniform Commercial Code. ...................considering the numerous favorable posts regarding Guitar Center stores working with a customer about pricing - this appears to be an issue with someone at that particular location. A complaint to management above the store level is indicated (stating within your complaint that failure to comply with the deal you WILL seek relief from the court system) Do it for future Head-Fi customers..................as someone (not a lawyer) who has had considerable retail background - this is NOT the way to handle a customer, particularly since the $ amount is so inconsequential to the store. I smell managerial incompetence.
I am so ashamed. I didn't provide pro bono advice to someone in a thread before 6:48 am (when you posted) when I am first reading the thread now at 8:39 pm. Here is my advice. You got screwed, get over it. Life isn't always fair. Maybe a complaint to management will do the trick. It's certainly worth a try. Otherwise, move on. Funny, I didn't even need to use my keen legal skills for that one.
post #63 of 78

Votron

Yup, you got it right, in part, about Seurat - but you will now have to get used to reading the fine print.
IF you are a Lawyer, why would you prefer not to be helpful to a Head-Fi member? There was a negotiation, and some representative of Guitar Center Stores proffered the merchandise desired by the O.P., accepted his charge card and utilized it to deduct the agreed-upon value of the goods from his account. This isn't rocket science. It is an everyday commercial transaction where as a retailer, someone at Guitar Center Stores used really lousy judgement in customer relations.........and made the store liable to judgement for a number of ancilliary issues.
post #64 of 78

Tyrion

Nothing happened to me. Please read carefully enough to realize the O.P. is someone else. Surely you would have something cogent to say for him.
post #65 of 78
Umm.. what the hell? You're getting your money back aren't you?
I bet it's going to be like a '03 DT770 vs '05 DT770
If you said they were the same thing and they found that it wasn't later on, then you're at fault
post #66 of 78
BushGuy, you should really quit while you're behind. I've already provided you with some very good reasons why the lawyers here wouldn't provide unsolicited legal advice. The original poster has not asked for our advice. He is not our client. Indeed, we don't even know his identity, so we have not had the opportunity to do a conflict check to make sure that there is no conflict in providing legal advice to him. He hasn't given us all of the facts relevant to the situation. (You, apparently, have no qualms about making up facts to suit your argument. As lawyers, however, we are ethically constrained to craft arguments that suit the facts.) In my case, and probably in the case of most of the lawyers here, the transaction in question occurred in a jurisdiction in which we are not licensed to practice.

I could go on, but you should get the point by now, and if you don't, it's pointless for me to try to explain it further.
post #67 of 78
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Nothing happened to me. Please read carefully enough to realize the O.P. is someone else. Surely you would have something cogent to say for him.
I was aware of that and no, I have nothing more cogent to say for him. He needs to move on if complaining to the company doesn't get him anywhere.
post #68 of 78
Who is this "Votron" guy? IF he is a member who is not willing to help out another member with specialized skills he has obtained through years of schooling and work, then he really is a jerk.

Fine print? You want fine print? How about the actual fine print from Guitar Center's website? I have highlighted a few cogent points for you and the OP.

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post #69 of 78
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Who is this "Votron" guy? IF he is a member who is not willing to help out another member with specialized skills he has obtained through years of schooling and work, then he really is a jerk.
Thank you!
post #70 of 78

BushGuy

post #71 of 78

Votron (better than Voltron, and Tyrion

Voltron, how nice that you have learned to copy, paste, etc. - but none of what you printed in your post above applies to a sale consumated within the San Fransisco store. All of the statements you laboriously copied apply to internet sales! If I'm ever in need of an attorney.............no to Voltron, Esq.

The same applies to Tyrion. He thanks Voltron for his inappropriate and inconsequential response to the issues. Gee, Tyrion, how do you have the time to practice law, and moderate a forum. Most lawyers do not have time to ............well, I've already answered the supposition. If guys can't respond to the BIG print, well, we common non-lawyers will have to get around to handling the fine print ourselves - if WE have the time
post #72 of 78
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Yes, I understand your pain, at being unable to debate effectively. Non-sequitors do not get the job done.
One gigantic issue with your posts is that you clearly don't understand our Constitution, just like the other 90% of the people living in this country. Furthermore, Constitutional guarantees such as free speech do not apply here because this web server - this website - is private property, and is not subsidized or funded in any way, shape, or form by the government. The first amendment does not necessarily have to apply here, which is demonstrated time and time again through the moderation on this board.

Hey man, you got what was coming - you shouldn't have been so foolish to bring up the constitution. I know that when somebody brings it up on a forum, they've completely lost any argument.

Additionally, your near-idiotic usage of nineteenth century colloquialism is laughable at best. Why are you trying to demonstrate your alleged knowledge in this matter by pulling broken Latin phrases out of your ass? If you said something logical (and in a logical fashion), then you would probably get across your childish "intellect" in the most effective way.
post #73 of 78
bushgay wrote:
"Voltron, how nice that you have learned to copy, paste, etc. - but none of what you printed in your post above applies to a sale consumated within the San Fransisco store. All of the statements you laboriously copied apply to internet sales! If I'm ever in need of an attorney.............no to Voltron, Esq.

The same applies to Tyrion. He thanks Voltron for his inappropriate and inconsequential response to the issues. Gee, Tyrion, how do you have the time to practice law, and moderate a forum. Most lawyers do not have time to ............well, I've already answered the supposition. If guys can't respond to the BIG print, well, we common non-lawyers will have to get around to handling the fine print ourselves - if WE have the time"

classy!
post #74 of 78
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Originally Posted by BushGuy View Post
Voltron, how nice that you have learned to copy, paste, etc. - but none of what you printed in your post above applies to a sale consumated within the San Fransisco store. All of the statements you laboriously copied apply to internet sales! If I'm ever in need of an attorney.............no to Voltron, Esq.

The same applies to Tyrion. He thanks Voltron for his inappropriate and inconsequential response to the issues. Gee, Tyrion, how do you have the time to practice law, and moderate a forum. Most lawyers do not have time to ............well, I've already answered the supposition. If guys can't respond to the BIG print, well, we common non-lawyers will have to get around to handling the fine print ourselves - if WE have the time
Get over yourself already. I would be willing to bet that more than 90% of the people in this thread are sick of reading your posts. Don't you think it's time to move on to another thread, forum, website. Read more carefully, I was thanking my good friend Voltron for calling me a jerk.

I guess I am lucky that I am not "most lawyers".

One more thing, enough with the bashing of everyone that either doesn't agree with you or doesn't do what you want them to do.
post #75 of 78
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Originally Posted by BushGuy View Post
Voltron, how nice that you have learned to copy, paste, etc. - but none of what you printed in your post above applies to a sale consumated within the San Fransisco store. All of the statements you laboriously copied apply to internet sales! If I'm ever in need of an attorney.............no to Voltron, Esq.

The same applies to Tyrion. He thanks Voltron for his inappropriate and inconsequential response to the issues. Gee, Tyrion, how do you have the time to practice law, and moderate a forum. Most lawyers do not have time to ............well, I've already answered the supposition. If guys can't respond to the BIG print, well, we common non-lawyers will have to get around to handling the fine print ourselves - if WE have the time
BushGuy you had me going there for a moment, I almost thought you were serious. But this has to be a gag with all the Jackie Childs like rants and quotes. Come on stop pulling our legs.
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