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post #61 of 71
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Originally Posted by kool bubba ice View Post
You can't? People do it all the time.. Since I had the 595 with my 650/SA5000, how could I not compare them! It's human nature..
I guess u could. But i mean a cheaper one being more inferior than the more expensive one is pretty obvious. The only time when you should compare phones from 2 different leagues is when an inferior one in price surprisingly comes close in sound quality to a more expensive one.
post #62 of 71
I do miss my Senn HD595s. They sound like how a pretty girl who dosn't eat enogh look. The phones were pretty sounding, but didn't eat enough If I had a chance at getting the HD595s again and holding on them I would in a heart beat. especially because you could listen to music all day long with them and not be fatigued one bit.
post #63 of 71
i'm a noob, but i love my HD555 which are probably, in my opinion the best entry headphone, now i want to spend tons of money on the best, hehe, i would love to hear other headphones, but my HD555's are the best headphones i have access to listen to
post #64 of 71
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Originally Posted by Zorander View Post
HFC however, being more stereo speakers-oriented (rather than headphone-), does not have a completely thorough exposure on headphones.
I think a point is being missed here. Whatever the extent of Hi-Fi Choice's experience with HPs generally, they feel that the 595 comes very close to the 650 for half the price. There's no lack of experience involved in that opinion.
post #65 of 71
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Originally Posted by pp312 View Post
I think a point is being missed here. Whatever the extent of Hi-Fi Choice's experience with HPs generally, they feel that the 595 comes very close to the 650 for half the price. There's no lack of experience involved in that opinion.
My point is, actually, HFC ought to throw the AKG K601/K701 into the mix (and we'll then see how, if, things change). You know the competition ring is not quite full with only Senns and Grados.

Cheers!
post #66 of 71
Which of the 595 and 650 is the tamest / laid back in the high frequencies?

It is hard to tell exactly what people mean when they describe their headphones
post #67 of 71
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Originally Posted by goorackerelite View Post
I do miss my Senn HD595s. They sound like how a pretty girl who dosn't eat enogh look. The phones were pretty sounding, but didn't eat enough If I had a chance at getting the HD595s again and holding on them I would in a heart beat. especially because you could listen to music all day long with them and not be fatigued one bit.
I used to put various nibblets down on the floor in front of my 595s but they never ever touched them. I couldn't understand it.

As for the lack of listener-fatigue, I generally agree. Our friend Snufkin, however, has exactly the opposite view, and considers the 595s harsh and cold sounding. How I wonder can listeners to the same phones come to such different conclusions? I attend symphony concerts quite regularly, and what I hear from my 595s is a reasonable facsimile of what I hear live, given that no HP can replicate a live experience. People have talked about a 'veil' in front of the 595, but the balance is very lifelike; live acoustic instruments are not "bright". In fact the last time I was in the Sydney Opera House I had an odd desire to turn up the treble control, except there wasn't one.
post #68 of 71
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Originally Posted by Zorander View Post
My point is, actually, HFC ought to throw the AKG K601/K701 into the mix (and we'll then see how, if, things change). You know the competition ring is not quite full with only Senns and Grados.

Cheers!
I owned the 701's and I found them to be an excellent headphone. But once I heard the 595's with a Singlepower SLAM .... the 701's were gone.
post #69 of 71
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Originally Posted by pp312 View Post
(...) How I wonder can listeners to the same phones come to such different conclusions? (...)
Well, for one thing, there is more than one HD 595 version: the initial 120 Ohm model (which to my ears sounds quite similar to the Beyerdynamic DT440 in tonal balance, just with somewhat grainy midrange, but also with tamer (= less spiky) treble; not really stellar for the 200 Euro it was then, but not a bad headphone) and the newer 50 Ohm model (which I've never heard, but is said to be a bit better than the 120 Ohm version)...

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini
post #70 of 71
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Originally Posted by pp312 View Post
As for the lack of listener-fatigue, I generally agree. Our friend Snufkin, however, has exactly the opposite view, and considers the 595s harsh and cold sounding. How I wonder can listeners to the same phones come to such different conclusions? I attend symphony concerts quite regularly, and what I hear from my 595s is a reasonable facsimile of what I hear live, given that no HP can replicate a live experience. People have talked about a 'veil' in front of the 595, but the balance is very lifelike; live acoustic instruments are not "bright". In fact the last time I was in the Sydney Opera House I had an odd desire to turn up the treble control, except there wasn't one.
Coming from the HD580, I did find the HD595 overly bright the first time I put the cans on. I guess it says something about what your ears are accustomed to!! Well after a day of burn-in (or the placebo of me thinking they were burning-in), I found the cans leveled to something that I think is really well balanced. I've just received the 325is....which are sweet for vocals and guitars, but very very far from "real life" like. At least on my system, that feeling still goes to the HD650. I have a feeling I'll really like the HD650 and HD595 when my SinglePower amp arrives (thanks to SACDlover).

There is something to be said about synergy of system. On a warm system, a given Sennheiser might be veiled and lifeless. On a fast system, the Sennheisers come alive to some lively beasts!
post #71 of 71
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Originally Posted by Jubei View Post
I was making a generalized remark. Hi fi mags do tend to highlight the deficiencies of lossy formats like MP3 which is why most of these mags / reviewers tend to favour the iPod and Apple's Lossless format. I think part of the reason why most mags favour the iPod is the supposed ease of use of the DAP and iTunes. I suppose the target reader is assumed to have little PC knowledge.
That and as headphone users where the vibrations of sound that can hit our body by music do not hit our body, we listen for very different things coming from a dap. For a user that connects the ipod to a home system, the sound is far more conducive to hi-end sound.

For years, portable use players have been big-bass showers and then came along the ipod, pretty much flat and for that reason, it makes it no where here among many. The thing is quite good except for the hiss and if you are picky, the capacitor in the headout. But, that last problem is shared by at least 70% of the 'great' daps mentioned here with foaming of the mouth.

For headphones, though the ipod's amp is powerful, we need something with more flavour. That is why almost every headphone manufacturer does have emphasis on bass, because there is no slam. Even the ety er4 series which some say as having too shallow or just not effect-ful of bass are mentioned very highly by speaker-lovers as having very deep bass.

We are a differnt bunch, we head-fiers, but I must say that with good dock connection to a good amplifier, the ipod is a wonderful combination, portable yes, but especially in a high-fi setup.

I think this is definitely true. I have a wider variety of cans than most people I know, but compared to people here, I have very limited experience. That's maybe why I like the 595 . I would really like to get a pair of AT closed cans, a more sophisticated Grado and an another amp though, when I have cash to spare.[/QUOTE]

Hey mate, you enjoy the HD595, why not not be argued out of that enjoyment... or you could buy the bose if you feel uncomfortable about liking a headphone that is good but receives mixed reviews (which it should - im a head-fi er but I don't drive, prefer walking and racing bicycles - aluminium i might add over steel) we all prefer different things, even sound.

That, except that my ears are much better than most of yours...
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