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post #136 of 148
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Originally Posted by moonboy403 View Post
IMO, the K1000 is everything that the K701 can do but do it MUCH better especially the midrange which lies closer to the K501(liquid, smooth, and soothing). Then you throw in an airy and natural soundstage that no headphones can match. Everything sounds very effortless. There you have it, a K1000.

Admittedly, the K1000 was driven by the Audio Note Kit 1 while the K701 is driven by the Phoenix. The source was Electrocompaniet ECD-1 for both.
Did you get to try the K1000 out of the Phoenix? Would be really interesting match....
post #137 of 148
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Originally Posted by tiga3mata View Post
Did you get to try the K1000 out of the Phoenix? Would be really interesting match....
I posted my very brief impression of the pairing in the Phoenix thread.
post #138 of 148
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Originally Posted by number1sixerfan View Post
I also found the K701 tonally off...
I think I finally understand what you and Uncle Erik speak of. You describe the tonality of the K701 to be off while Uncle Erik describes the K701 as having a plasticky tone to it.

I think I would describe it differently. The more I listen to the K701, the more I think it sounds sterile. For a lack of a better way to describe it, I would say that the mids sound too tight and a bit congested. Is that what you're hearing Uncle Erik?
post #139 of 148

My experiments with positioning the K701 continue!

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Originally Posted by moonboy403 View Post
I think I finally understand what you and Uncle Erik speak of. You describe the tonality of the K701 to be off while Uncle Erik describes the K701 as having a plasticky tone to it.

I think I would describe it differently. The more I listen to the K701, the more I think it sounds sterile. For a lack of a better way to describe it, I would say that the mids sound too tight and a bit congested. Is that what you're hearing Uncle Erik?
Not really, the flaw is elsewhere. The K701, IMO, is very sensitive to how you place it on your head and it sounds pleasant at ONE VOLUME. You got to place it correctly(Use a mirror to get it right, if possible) and find the CORRECT VOLUME for any album that you throw at it.

I have played around with the positioning a lot and my present conclusions tell me that:

A: Do not pull the earcups far too down(vertically)... the more downwards you pull them, the more thin and sterile the K701 sounds.

B: Remember, how one cocks one's hand behind one's ear to hear something clearly? Do NOT let the K701 EARCUPS c0ck YOUR EARLOBE (I found this, of late)... Place them slightly backwards to prevent the said c0ck-ing. But don't place it far too back either. If your earlobes are cocked, the mids sound a bit hollow and echo-ey... the markl "hollow tube to ear effect"

If you place the K701 incorrectly, it seems to lack a fair bit of midbass and bleaches the various instruments.... nothing sounds fleshed out. (vertical positioning affects this)

Once you place them correctly, the situation improves A LOT... sounds fill in nicely, though it is still a fraction on the leaner side.

I enjoy my K701 a lot more these days, with proper positioning, of course! They are really nice with classical, much more so than my E4C and PX100... But I do admit that they are on the leaner and brighter side of things. The lean-ness is more evident on the backing instruments, which I feel could sound a bit more fuller.

post #140 of 148
Sorry, but that "explanation" doesn't fly.
A headphone that picky about placement is clearly a flawed design.
post #141 of 148
have your Future GF come to your house, and show her some STYLE!
post #142 of 148
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Originally Posted by Gbjerke View Post
have your Future GF come to your house, and show her some STYLE!
Oops... didn't understand!

Explain please!
post #143 of 148
While AKG may be experts at creating good sound, there styles leave something to be desired. Have they ever made a good looking phone?
post #144 of 148
When my father saw the K1000s, his first reaction was "Whoah?! Are those German?"

I think they've done pretty well stylistically, considering.
post #145 of 148
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Originally Posted by bhanja_trinanjan View Post
Not really, the flaw is elsewhere. The K701, IMO, is very sensitive to how you place it on your head and it sounds pleasant at ONE VOLUME. You got to place it correctly(Use a mirror to get it right, if possible) and find the CORRECT VOLUME for any album that you throw at it.

I have played around with the positioning a lot and my present conclusions tell me that:

A: Do not pull the earcups far too down(vertically)... the more downwards you pull them, the more thin and sterile the K701 sounds.

B: Remember, how one cocks one's hand behind one's ear to hear something clearly? Do NOT let the K701 EARCUPS c0ck YOUR EARLOBE (I found this, of late)... Place them slightly backwards to prevent the said c0ck-ing. But don't place it far too back either. If your earlobes are cocked, the mids sound a bit hollow and echo-ey... the markl "hollow tube to ear effect"

If you place the K701 incorrectly, it seems to lack a fair bit of midbass and bleaches the various instruments.... nothing sounds fleshed out. (vertical positioning affects this)

Once you place them correctly, the situation improves A LOT... sounds fill in nicely, though it is still a fraction on the leaner side.

I enjoy my K701 a lot more these days, with proper positioning, of course! They are really nice with classical, much more so than my E4C and PX100... But I do admit that they are on the leaner and brighter side of things. The lean-ness is more evident on the backing instruments, which I feel could sound a bit more fuller.

I don't feel like the K701 was missing that much midbass to be honest and I did experiment with different positioning. I think the K701 just isn't my cup of tea since I really liked the K501 minus its peaky treble and I love how the K1000(out of an Audio Note Kit 1).
post #146 of 148
To me they are the best looking headphones EVER!
they are insanely beautiful ,they have such brutal beauty...
post #147 of 148
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Originally Posted by robm321 View Post
While AKG may be experts at creating good sound, there styles leave something to be desired. Have they ever made a good looking phone?
K701 while not everyone's cup of tea are damn sexy. Especially compared to the HD650's.
post #148 of 148
Nothing's as stylist as my all time favorite.

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