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post #16 of 29
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Originally Posted by TopShelf View Post
They did everything they needed to do,
I don't think they did. I guess, if a three point dog means a team is supposed to lose, then so be it. For me, Michigan had their shot. They had the chance to beat the number 1 team in the nation, win their conference, and failed.

As for Florida's and Michigan losses. I actually think Florida's loss was 'better'. Michigan had three weeks, and three sisters of the poor, to get ready for the latest Game of the Century according to the ESPN jokers. Geesh, do you think the Wolverines weren't prepping for Columbus while snoozing past Northwestern, Ball State, and Indiana? Michigan had three weeks to get ready to play their biggest rival for all the marbles.

Florida's loss at Auburn - a top ten team at the time, came in the middle of a dangerous conference section which included LSU, Georgia, and Alabama. What is the difference between the four game stretches? Florida played 4 bowl teams. Michigan played 1.

If there was a playoff, sure let Michy in, give a two or three seed, and let them go through others and tOSU again for that crystal ball. But as it is, we have to split hairs to decide a worthy opponent for the Buckeyes for a one game playoff. Florida is more worthy than Michigan. They won their conference and played the toughest schedule in the nation...including a conference championship game. Those CCG's are a mind field, ask any SEC, ACC, or Big 12 fan.

Michigan can still get a ring btw. Say UF barely beats tOSU, and Meatchickin lays the smackdown on Carrol's boys. I could see the AP giving Ann Arbor's heroes the top spot.

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Originally Posted by BigEd
Virometal, I am originally from Nebraska. Congratulations. That 99 yard drive killed our mojo. Oh well, maybe next time.
Thank you BigEd. I didn't have much to do with it, but the boys played pretty well. It was one of those games. A couple plays here or there, and Big Red would be celebrating.

However, it sure was nice to have the old dancing partners back together again wasn't it? Good luck against Auburn and hopefully we'll see you guys in December again next year.

Boomer Sooner and Go Big Red
post #17 of 29
It will be good to see how the big ten stacks up against the SEC.

I don't think you can knock Ohio State and Michigan for being in a weak conference. That's not their fault. I think that Florida has some weaknesses, but we shall see. I am a dedicated SEC fan, so I will have to pull for Florida, but don't mind if OSU wins. They are a great team.
post #18 of 29
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I'll be the first to admit I don't really follow football that much or understand the whole voting/bcs/etc process, but how does this statement make sense if the two best teams in the country happen to be in the same conference?
It really doesn't make sense if you approach the whole issue logically -- and logic leads you to the conclusion that there ought to be a playoff. But it makes some sense in bizzarro world, where we find ourselves currently, i.e., it makes some sense in a format where determining the best team in the country is predicated on sending various teams from certain conferences to certain BCS bowls, which supposedly determines the champion. One could argue that the current format basically says that you have to win your conference to get to the championship game.

The reality is that Florida is in the championship game because most people want a new game -- they don't want OSU v. Michigan again. Frankly, I think the vast majority of fans think OSU will handle Florida more easily than if they played Michigan again.

Also, if USC had won, and got into the championship game, would Florida have jumped Michigan? I doubt it. They only jumped up because the whole thing is contrived, which has always been the case to a large extent. So this year, the championship game is not really pitting no. 1 vs. no. 2, it's pitting no. 1 vs the team the pollsters and others have decided they want in the championship game, regardless of whether they are really the second best team.
post #19 of 29
When will my poor Univ. of Delaware program get into the bowl picture? Didn't they go undefeated a few years ago? Oh yeah, not part of the top divisions/conferences, so forget it. Bah. Nevermind, fight on, Fightin' Blue Hens!
post #20 of 29
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Originally Posted by sacd lover View Post




GO BUCKS!!!
GO BUCKS x2!!!
post #21 of 29
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Originally Posted by jefemeister View Post
but how does this statement make sense if the two best teams in the country happen to be in the same conference?
There are 117 schools that play Div 1-A football. They can't all play eachother. How is Michigan better than Florida? Have they played? I'm a little lost on that one. I guess if Kirk Herbstreit says so...

The national title is mythical. It is awarded by the BCS, not the NCAA. The AP also awards a national title. There is no true NCAA National football champion.

The only championship in Div 1A football that is legitimate and is settled on the field is a conference championship. Everything else - bowls, bcs, rankings, s determined by voters and formulas. So if there are three one loss teams. One is a conference champ, and the other two are not. That should be a no brainer.

I find it ironic, that some playoff proponents, have argued against Florida when they won a conference championship played on the field. So let's erase the importance of the one trophy that a team earns without outside influence? That's silly.

The last BCS controversy was in 03 where it was between Oklahoma, Auburn, and USC. If the conference rule was applied there, it wouldn't of been so. Oklahoma wasn't Big 12 champs. It should of been Auburn/USC (two conference champs btw) for the marbles.

The Coaches and Harris polls did the right thing. They rewarded the conference champ and kept out Michigan. Hell, Bosie State should be in before Michigan. How about that?
post #22 of 29
I disagree with the notion that a conference championship should have any weight in voting. Say that Florida marches into that game undefeated, plays a poor game, and loses to a one loss team that everyone agrees is not nearly as good as Florida. By logic then you would rather have that inferior -but conference champion- team play for the "national championship"? Even though everyone agrees Florida is better? I know I wouldn't.

Only problem with the title game requiring conference champs is when there is a situation like the one this year. In my opinion Florida is softer than Michigan. The question the voters should ask themselves is who is more likely to play with, or even beat Ohio State. IMO Michigan can play with OSU, and Michigan is good enough that they can win the game, no matter how well Ohio State plays. Whereas the only way I see Florida winning is if Ohio State gives them the chance to win.

Almost forgot...Urban Meyer needs to shut up.
post #23 of 29
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Originally Posted by virometal View Post
I find it ironic, that some playoff proponents, have argued against Florida when they won a conference championship played on the field.

The Coaches and Harris polls did the right thing. They rewarded the conference champ and kept out Michigan. Hell, Bosie State should be in before Michigan. How about that?
You're theory only really applies if the conference champ is playing in a conference with other good teams. What if it so happens that a team wins it's conference championship but wins mostly due to the fact that their conference was soft?

I think OSU and Michigan would have been a better game, but Florida might do alright. Time will tell.
post #24 of 29
You guys need to snap out it and come back to reality.........Ohio State will need 110% effort to beat Florida, they have faced NO ONE with the offensive skills of Florida, same comment for Michigan vs USC. The Ohio State win over Texas looks less impressive now at seasons end, and Big Ten is WEAK conference this year, SEC is toughest conference.

Michigan does not deserve title shot, they had 3 turnover advantage in Ohio State game and can't win?
If that stat was reversed Ohio State wins by 14+ over Michigan easy.

Michigan will loose to USC in Rose Bowl...........
post #25 of 29
Have to agree with DarkAngel here...although I do think OSU will win, I don't think it will be by more than 7.

The PAC-10 and Big Ten are overrated.

I think LSU, Arkansas, Auburn, or Florida would beat USC on neutral turf right now.

-Matt
post #26 of 29
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel View Post
You guys need to snap out it and come back to reality......
You know who needs to come to reality. The Harris voters...check out this poll for a good laugh. This is a third of the BCS folks:

http://www.harrisinteractive.com/new...Dec_3_2006.pdf

Jim Walden actually voted Florida number one! Even DarkAngel would have to give the buckeyes the top spot for not losing a game.

How about playing the conference preference game...check out the final coaches poll...

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/graph...2006/flash.htm

Read and draw your own conlcusions.

One other thing. ESPN ran a poll yesterday asking, "Did the BCS make the right decision"

Out of 300,000 votes, it split between Yes/No. Most of the yes'es were in the South and East. Most of the no's were in the North and Midwest.

Interesting how that works...
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post #28 of 29
Unless Michigan pulls something out of their hat, this debate is about to be closed.

I'm rooting for Michigan, so maybe my comments will jinx SC!
post #29 of 29
The Gators will eat up "The" Ohio State University. SEC all the way!
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