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post #31 of 424
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So when it comes to the new amp with integrated vacuum cleaner "Opera House" you will be the Beta tester again.
Thanks for the kind words -- but I'm not so sure: cleaning and clearing up the apartment generally isn't my strong point.
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post #32 of 424
Many of you folks seem to have already ordered one. Has Jan given you a price estimate?
post #33 of 424
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Many of you folks seem to have already ordered one. Has Jan given you a price estimate?
No, no estimate. But knowing Jan, it will be reasonably priced. I'm thinking just above the Pre-Head, but I could be wrong. We're allowed to cancel our "reservations" of course if the price is beyond our reach.
post #34 of 424
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Just received the info today that very likely the Opera will be available in approx. 2 weeks.
post #35 of 424
Richter D - I know that the Opera is a different beast compared to the Hornet "M", but since I like the acoustic's of Hornet "M", it only seems likely that I get a destop/DAC with similar attributes.

Hypothetical Question: If the Hornet "M" was an adequate desktop, how would it fair compared to an Opera? TIA
post #36 of 424
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Richter D - I know that the Opera is a different beast compared to the Hornet "M", but since I like the acoustic's of Hornet "M", it only seems likely that I get a destop/DAC with similar attributes.

Hypothetical Question: If the Hornet "M" was an adequate desktop, how would it fair compared to an Opera? TIA
I don't know the Hornet "M" but only the SR-71 (which I own).
But I am sure that the Opera is the premier league of headamps available

Concerning the DAC ability it is a very good one but I do not have the ability to compare it to top CD-Players (e.g. Esoteric) or DAC's.
post #37 of 424
has Jan discussed the possiblity of breaking out the components into separates, ie. amp and dac, for those who don't need both? also, will the development of the opera trickle down into lower priced meier products? i certainly hope so on all counts!
post #38 of 424
Thanks for giving us your first impressions, Reiner.

You make me curious since you give - at least to me- the impression that the Opera sounds neutral with very different headphones.

I see you listened to the Opera/RS-1 combo. You speak about "neutral". After a lot of trial and error I have to constat that some COMBO's sound neutral to ME (very personal).
I like my Prehead SE II with the Senn 650 and the Westone ES-2 (both connected to the low z output). To me these sound rather neutral.
The Prehead with RS-1 or GS 1000 sounds a bit over-analytical to me; I prefer these phones with the Slee Solo trading in some "stereoscope" and detail for some warmth- again, all a matter of taste).

I always have the (maybe wrong) impression that most european amps are tuned to bring SENN 600 and 650 (perhaps the de facto standard for headphones in Europe) to life but these phones have rolled off highs (please do NOT give comments on that - I don't want to start another boring Senn versus Grado discussion since I like both headphones but for different recordings).

So, what was your personal impression of the Opera/Grado (RS-1) combination?

Jan (not Meier).
post #39 of 424
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So, what was your personal impression of the Opera/Grado (RS-1) combination?

Jan (not Meier).
Hi Jan,

My first tests with the RS1 and the prototype II showed a typicall RS1 sound. Not neutral, but pleasant. Overall I think it sounded somehow a little bit thin with very brilliant highs. Is the Opera overemphazising the highs. I do not think so, as beside the HD 650, also the K701, K1000 and W5000 sounded very neutral.

Still the Opera is not a tube or LEF (Candeias technology used in the HD 53) giving overall a slightly warmer sound.

At the moment only the prototype I is available to me. Therefore I would recommend to wait since I have my "real" Opera and give the RS1 a second try.

Reiner
post #40 of 424
Richter Di - From my limited listening experience with the LM6172 (80 hours), I found it to be very bassy, loose bass and somewhat overpowering. Detail seemed sparkly; however, not as sparkly and shimmery as whatever opamp is in the Hornet "M". I've read that the LM6172 in the Opera is Class "A" biased with 634 buffers, I assume that makes the Opera sound better, but the LM6172 characterics remain the same?

In using the LM6172, with the sennheiser, the bass and whatnot aren't as apparently overpowering; however, with the Darth you can hear and feel the difference. Did the Opera have good balance between the bass and fine details? I'm concerned that because of the LM6172 opamp, the Opera may not suit my tastes for either phone. In terms of sound quality, what are you thoughts on the LM6172 verses other amps you've heard.
post #41 of 424
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Richter Di - From my limited listening experience with the LM6172 (80 hours), I found it to be very bassy, loose bass and somewhat overpowering. Detail seemed sparkly; however, not as sparkly and shimmery as whatever opamp is in the Hornet "M". I've read that the LM6172 in the Opera is Class "A" biased with 634 buffers, I assume that makes the Opera sound better, but the LM6172 characterics remain the same?

In using the LM6172, with the sennheiser, the bass and whatnot aren't as apparently overpowering; however, with the Darth you can hear and feel the difference. Did the Opera have good balance between the bass and fine details? I'm concerned that because of the LM6172 opamp, the Opera may not suit my tastes for either phone. In terms of sound quality, what are you thoughts on the LM6172 verses other amps you've heard.

To be honest, some of your questions go far beyond my level of electronic expertise, especially if it comes to how does the opamp itself sound how much is done via the sourrounding electronics.

But I can assure you that the Opera is not "very bassy, loose bass and somewhat overpowering."
post #42 of 424
Aslo, in an amp as sophisticated as the Opera, you cannot make assumptions on it's sound based purely on what you have heard a given op-amp do in a totally different amp.
post #43 of 424
Does anyone know if the Opera and/or Arietta are now shipping? The website used to say "expected delivery in December" but now the note is gone. So, either the amps are ready, or the website will soon be updated with "expected delivery in January" http://www.meier-audio.homepage.t-online.de/
post #44 of 424
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Does anyone know if the Opera and/or Arietta are now shipping? The website used to say "expected delivery in December" but now the note is gone. So, either the amps are ready, or the website will soon be updated with "expected delivery in January" http://www.meier-audio.homepage.t-online.de/
To my knowledge Jan is expecting delivery of the Opera next week. So he can start shipping afterwards.
post #45 of 424
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The website used to say "expected delivery in December" but now the note is gone. /[/url]



I just noticed too that this statement has disappeared from the site (yesterday it was still there)...a good sign.
Btw...I ordered one too...
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