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post #46 of 338
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Originally Posted by nelda View Post
Hi, can anyone comment on my IC woes?
BTW, what is black gate. will it give this amp a better juice to drive higher ohms can? it stated to drive 8-32 ohms can. so i guess it is my mistake to use this to drive K340
Black Gate is a brand of high-end capacitor. It won't make the headamp have more juice; whoever gave you that idea needs to slow down on the obsessive upgradeitis juice.
post #47 of 338
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Originally Posted by Meyvn View Post
OKay, so I'm pretty sure this jandl guy is a shill. I looked at his past posts and pretty much all of them are centered around this DAC specifically. Also, if you look a this link:
http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/1/290370.html

He started an account on another forum ONLY to rate the DAC, and that was it, and hasn't posted there since. He also mentions Head-Fi as a source of "buzz" for it, much of which he created! Not to mention

http://cgi.ebay.com/Beresford-TC-751...QQcmdZViewItem

This eBay auction directly links to Head-Fi as a source of "positive reviews." Normally when you link to reviews on FORUMS, you do it a good long while after the review's been posted, not like a month after. 90% sure this guy's a shill.
Oh dear. I've said this before, but I'll happily repeat my self ...

No, I'm not a shill for Beresford, just a happy Beresford customer. This DAC really is very fine (as some more people are beginning to find out - look for their recent posts. E.g. goonerman on this thread. Also Merlin. And, no, I really don't think they are shills either), so why should I not share the good news?

I guess I just have this thing about us audiophile folks spending 1,000s more than we need to when there are superb, low cost items out there like the Beresford DAC, T-amp and Gainclone amplification ..... You really don't need to spend big money on digital sources or amplification for true hi-end sound these days. And, no, I'm not a shill for Sonic Impact or gainclone manufacturers either.

And why, pray, should a manufacturer wait for a "good long while" before referring to favourable forum posts in their ads? It don't make NO sense to me! Sure - I told Beresford that I was most pleased with his work, and that I had said so on HeadFi & elsewhere. Seems sensible for him to refer to it then, no?

Perhaps you, Meyvn, are a shill for a competing manufacturer who is upset at all the good words being spilled about Beresford by an increasing number of users? (.... no smilie, you may note - I'm serious).

And it simply IS NOT TRUE that most of my posts centre on the wonderous Beresford DAC (oops, there I go again!) - my main forum is Pink Fish Media - I am involved in a LOT of varied threads and posts there.

Look, for Heaven's sake, you can get the dang thing on a trial basis and it costs peanuts anyway - try it and let us all know if you think JANDL100 and many others are shills for anyone!! You've got nothing to lose but your pride.
post #48 of 338
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Originally Posted by jandl100 View Post
Oh dear. I've said this before, but I'll happily repeat my self ...

No, I'm not a shill for Beresford, just a happy Beresford customer. This DAC really is very fine (as some more people are beginning to find out - look for their recent posts. E.g. goonerman on this thread. Also Merlin. And, no, I really don't think they are shills either), so why should I not share the good news?

I guess I just have this thing about us audiophile folks spending 1,000s more than we need to when there are superb, low cost items out there like the Beresford DAC, T-amp and Gainclone amplification ..... You really don't need to spend big money on digital sources or amplification for true hi-end sound these days. And, no, I'm not a shill for Sonic Impact or gainclone manufacturers either.

And why, pray, should a manufacturer wait for a "good long while" before referring to favourable forum posts in their ads? It don't make NO sense to me! Sure - I told Beresford that I was most pleased with his work, and that I had said so on HeadFi & elsewhere. Seems sensible for him to refer to it then, no?

Perhaps you, Meyvn, are a shill for a competing manufacturer who is upset at all the good words being spilled about Beresford by an increasing number of users? (.... no smilie, you may note - I'm serious).

And it simply IS NOT TRUE that most of my posts centre on the wonderous Beresford DAC (oops, there I go again!) - my main forum is Pink Fish Media - I am involved in a LOT of varied threads and posts there.

Look, for Heaven's sake, you can get the dang thing on a trial basis and it costs peanuts anyway - try it and let us all know if you think JANDL100 and many others are shills for anyone!! You've got nothing to lose but your pride.
I have no argument for or against the DAC being a good/excellent product. My post was written based on what I saw to be very suspicious actions taken by yourself, and not upon any actual performance of a DAC I have not yet heard. Truth be told, there is little I would like more than for your claims to be completely legitimate. As to why a manufacturer should wait a good while, it's about substantiation. If a couple long-standing Head-Fi members had posted calling this DAC great, and a few others had gone and listened and agreed, that would have been an instance in which it would be fair for someone to link to it and call it 'buzz.' When you and a couple of other virtually brand new Head-Fiers come here and post, and it's almost immediately linked to by the manufacturer on eBay, that isn't a buzz, that's suspect behavior.
post #49 of 338
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Originally Posted by Meyvn View Post
As to why a manufacturer should wait a good while, it's about substantiation. If a couple long-standing Head-Fi members had posted calling this DAC great, and a few others had gone and listened and agreed, that would have been an instance in which it would be fair for someone to link to it and call it 'buzz.'
OK - are there any "long standing" HeadFi-ers out there who want to contribute to views on the Beresford based on actually listening to the thing?

Also, I suspect that the main reason why this forum is being used by HeadFi newbies for posting about the Beresford, is that a Google search prior to my postings on "Beresford TC-7510" led inexorably and uniquely to this site where Beresford himself had been asking forum members' advice about what functionality to put on his planned DAC. So it was sensible and reasonable to post our thoughts on his completed work here too. It's certainly what I did - and I hope that since I joined I have added value to threads other than Beresford.
post #50 of 338
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Originally Posted by jandl100 View Post
Oh dear. I've said this before, but I'll happily repeat my self ...

No, I'm not a shill for Beresford, just a happy Beresford customer. This DAC really is very fine (as some more people are beginning to find out - look for their recent posts. E.g. goonerman on this thread. Also Merlin. And, no, I really don't think they are shills either), so why should I not share the good news?

I guess I just have this thing about us audiophile folks spending 1,000s more than we need to when there are superb, low cost items out there like the Beresford DAC, T-amp and Gainclone amplification ..... You really don't need to spend big money on digital sources or amplification for true hi-end sound these days. And, no, I'm not a shill for Sonic Impact or gainclone manufacturers either.

And why, pray, should a manufacturer wait for a "good long while" before referring to favourable forum posts in their ads? It don't make NO sense to me! Sure - I told Beresford that I was most pleased with his work, and that I had said so on HeadFi & elsewhere. Seems sensible for him to refer to it then, no?

Perhaps you, Meyvn, are a shill for a competing manufacturer who is upset at all the good words being spilled about Beresford by an increasing number of users? (.... no smilie, you may note - I'm serious).

And it simply IS NOT TRUE that most of my posts centre on the wonderous Beresford DAC (oops, there I go again!) - my main forum is Pink Fish Media - I am involved in a LOT of varied threads and posts there.

Look, for Heaven's sake, you can get the dang thing on a trial basis and it costs peanuts anyway - try it and let us all know if you think JANDL100 and many others are shills for anyone!! You've got nothing to lose but your pride.

Have you compared the DAC to 1,000 plus DACS like the Lavry10, DAC1, Stello 2200..If not, it's hard to say the beresford is better then them, so head fiers shouldn't 'waste' money on more expensive DACS..
post #51 of 338
I dont have the decent gears like DA10 or DAC1,
but try to get a EMU-1212M from friend to compare.

As my suddenly listen, the 7510 more "muscial" and "soildility"than 1212
post #52 of 338
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Originally Posted by kool bubba ice View Post
Have you compared the DAC to 1,000 plus DACS like the Lavry10, DAC1, Stello 2200..If not, it's hard to say the beresford is better then them, so head fiers shouldn't 'waste' money on more expensive DACS..
I believe he said he'd compared it to the DAC1, and that was his point of reference, rather than the DA220 or DA10.
post #53 of 338
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Originally Posted by kool bubba ice View Post
Have you compared the DAC to 1,000 plus DACS like the Lavry10, DAC1, Stello 2200..If not, it's hard to say the beresford is better then them, so head fiers shouldn't 'waste' money on more expensive DACS..
Hi, no, I've not heard the Lavry or Stello - there's just so much gear out there that I shouldn't think anyone has heard it all.

My immediate reference point for the Beresford has been the Benchmark DAC1 and the budget, but still very fine, Flying Calf DAC. I've also previously owned a whole bunch of CDPs and transport/DAC combos which inevitably color my views - these include Mark Levinson 36/37 & 39, Musical Fidelity FCD, Cyrus Disc- and Dac-Master, Eastern Electric Minimax, Quad 99, Meridian 200/263 & 500/563 & quite a few others. ** All very fine and often very different presentations. In my view - sorry to keep repeating myself - the Beresford is up there with the best of them. I know this seems ridiculous. I would have thought so, too, before hearing the unit.

This is just my opinion - honestly come by. YMMV, as they say.


(** Oops - I forgot in my "resume" to mention the Perpetual Technology P1a/P3a and Monolithic power supply - how on earth could I forget? - that's the kit that totally trashed my much-loved Mark Levinson 39 !!)
post #54 of 338
Given the flak I'm receiving from some Forum members about possibly being a shill for Beresford (I'm not), I've decided it's time to "come out" and use my real name in my signature. To hide behind a pseudonym no longer seems honest or appropriate. There will be quite a few folks in the UK who know me, or who have had dealings with me in the past (some in the US, too), and know me to be an honest and straight forward guy with a genuine passion for music and audio gear. Of course, there will be vastly more folks who have never heard of me! So it goes.
post #55 of 338
Seems to be we have some...

in here.

shill out kids, *cough* I mean chill out..
post #56 of 338
I thought that case design looked familiar. It's because it is. The Beresford 7510 is a rebadged TEC/TCC TC-7510. I remembered the looks because I won a TEC speaker switcher. They specialize in doing the basic job for you at affordable prices. Nothing fancy, just what you need/can afford. In other words, I highly doubt the parts or topology are going to be high end enough to surpass the well-designed DACs we're familiar with here. Of course I could be wrong, but that's my asessment based on my knowledge of the company and experience with a product of theirs before. If I had to guess, this "Mr. Beresford" is probably just purchasing these inexpensive DACs in bulk, putting his name on it, and marking up the price a smidgeon. Here's a link to the TEC version:

http://cgi.ebay.com/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...m=150053439729
post #57 of 338
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Originally Posted by Meyvn View Post
I thought that case design looked familiar. It's because it is. The Beresford 7510 is a rebadged TEC/TCC TC-7510. I remembered the looks because I won a TEC speaker switcher. They specialize in doing the basic job for you at affordable prices. Nothing fancy, just what you need/can afford. In other words, I highly doubt the parts or topology are going to be high end enough to surpass the well-designed DACs we're familiar with here. Of course I could be wrong, but that's my asessment based on my knowledge of the company and experience with a product of theirs before. If I had to guess, this "Mr. Beresford" is probably just purchasing these inexpensive DACs in bulking, putting his name on it, and marking up the price a smidgeon. Here's a link to the TEC version:

http://cgi.ebay.com/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...m=150053439729

I knew this was the case from the beginning -- I had a TCC phono stage. Same case work. It's an OEM manufacturer and nothing fancy. To me the pictures from the insides look like the designer simply copied the Typical Circuit Connection. Far from a good design, that is.

Still, if someone is willing to send me one (I'll pay shipping both ways) I'd like to give it a fair review.
post #58 of 338
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Originally Posted by Meyvn View Post
I thought that case design looked familiar. It's because it is. The Beresford 7510 is a rebadged TEC/TCC TC-7510.
Well, well, well. Have I been taken in here or not? (I'm the alleged - by some - shiller for Beresford). Yup, same casework - identical box. Are the components inside any different? I have no idea. Any folks out there know?

This is all news to me. In a way I feel kind of let down by all of this ... and also a little embarassed ...

... but, but, but .... I still stand by my assessment of the sound quality, it remains for me the best DAC I have heard in a lot of ways that are important to me - transparency, focus, liveliness, "pizzaz" ... I really would not go back to the Benchmark.

When I received this little unit I was expecting a fairly bland and uninteresting sound that would soon be winging its way back to Beresford in London. What I heard really was entirely different.

I'll be getting on to Beresford about this, I'm as curious as to what is going on here as anyone.
post #59 of 338
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Originally Posted by jandl100 View Post
Hi, no, I've not heard the Lavry or Stello - there's just so much gear out there that I shouldn't think anyone has heard it all.

My immediate reference point for the Beresford has been the Benchmark DAC1 and the budget, but still very fine, Flying Calf DAC. I've also previously owned a whole bunch of CDPs and transport/DAC combos which inevitably color my views - these include Mark Levinson 36/37 & 39, Musical Fidelity FCD, Cyrus Disc- and Dac-Master, Eastern Electric Minimax, Quad 99, Meridian 200/263 & 500/563 & quite a few others. All very fine and often very different presentations. In my view - sorry to keep repeating myself - the Beresford is up there with the best of them. I know this seems ridiculous. I would have thought so, too, before hearing the unit.

This is just my opinion - honestly come by. YMMV, as they say.
Nice resume. I believe you.. One thing that keeps me away from the Ber is the built in amp.. I prefer stand alone over combos..I don't buy DVD/VHS combo's, & don't like buying amp/dac combo's..
post #60 of 338
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Originally Posted by jandl100 View Post
OK - are there any "long standing" HeadFi-ers out there who want to contribute to views on the Beresford based on actually listening to the thing?

Also, I suspect that the main reason why this forum is being used by HeadFi newbies for posting about the Beresford, is that a Google search prior to my postings on "Beresford TC-7510" led inexorably and uniquely to this site where Beresford himself had been asking forum members' advice about what functionality to put on his planned DAC. So it was sensible and reasonable to post our thoughts on his completed work here too. It's certainly what I did - and I hope that since I joined I have added value to threads other than Beresford.

About the Google search, I always see Headfi in the top search results no matter which product I search. Hell, that is how I found Headfi and this hobby, a Google search for headphones. I kept seeing these damned forum links when what I wanted was a review. Finally I clicked one and the rest is history and so was my budget... Hello headfi! The product I was searching for was the HD650. I don't think that there is a dude at Sennheiser making this happen do you?
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