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post #1 of 16
11/14/06 at 3:40pm
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post #2 of 16
11/16/06 at 6:30pm
this is crazy news, thank you for sharing your findings.

i had heard similar rummors regarding diferent drivers used in diferent "zones," but that they were more consistent.
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post #3 of 16
11/16/06 at 7:08pm
It would be nice - very nice - if anyone else with two (or more) K1000s could put some flesh on the story. Alas, so few people have two pairs that comparison is difficult, presuming there's a difference, and it's significant.

If anyone else is willing to post....
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post #4 of 16
11/17/06 at 3:48am
Give me a break

Your comments are as subjective and as easily dismissed as those whom you disagree with.

Unless a group of listeners actually assemble a half dozen different K1000s from different production years and listened extensively with the same source, same amp, same cables, same music, and under the same conditions, then there is no clear answer.

The K1000 has been around long enough to induce many myths, but most of the factual information is well known. A majority of listeners do not believe that there are significant differences between older models and newer ones, particularly not when 4100 and 4500 are so close together.
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post #5 of 16
11/17/06 at 4:19am
Mine are 11XXX. I haven't listened to any other pair. However, I can say that they sound incredibly good. Best transducer I've heard, loudspeaker or headphone. Even if an earlier one might sound slightly better, the later ones sound good by just about any measure. I just wish the K-1000 was plentiful and cheap so everyone could have a pair.
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post #6 of 16
11/17/06 at 4:22am
Mine is a 10xxx and it sounds damn good to me. Loads of bass, not shrill at all, liquid midrange.

Have you compared all these headphones at the same time, same equipment? Sort of peculiar you first said the GS-1000 have production differences and now the K1000. Safe to say you'd hear production differences in any headphone?
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post #7 of 16
11/17/06 at 7:04am
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post #8 of 16
11/17/06 at 7:08am
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Originally Posted by superman's ears View Post
All same equipment.

Six K1000 at the same time.



Five PS-1 = sounded same
Three Hd650 = sounded same
Two GS-1000 = the second without the problems of the first

Two MDR-R10 = sounded very different

Four HE90 = I will write my experiences in the comparison with Edition 7.
four HE90? That's crazy talk

Say, are you adopting?
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post #9 of 16
11/17/06 at 7:16am
others have reported the eailer models sounded more warm with better bass. while the newer drivers have brighter highs. havent compare them my self though .
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post #10 of 16
11/17/06 at 7:16am
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Originally Posted by superman's ears View Post
Well, I've read that some guys affirm, that the last pieces of the production would sound different - and here it means better than the earlier producted pieces.

Nice myth but not true.

Reality:
I've heard nine different K1000 in the last three years. Each of them more than 20 hours. And yes, there have been differences between them. But not depending on the "serial number" question.

Best sounded the serial number 25xx.
Second best sounded the serial number 41xx.
Third best sounded the serial number 45xx.
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Worst sounded the serial number 8xxx.
Second worst sounded the serial number 12xxx.
Third worst sounded the serial number 7xxx.

Some had problems with the bass, others not.
Some sounded "thin", others not.
Some sounded "airy" with wide soundstage, others not.

But the production date tells nothing about who's best and who's worst.

I was convinced that the 11xxx series is the latest production... do exist a 25xxx or 45xxx series? Are these the latest K1000 built?

My two 11xxx K1000 sound identical and amazing...
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post #11 of 16
11/17/06 at 7:38am
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I was convinced that the 11xxx series is the latest production... do exist a 25xxx or 45xxx series? Are these the latest K1000 built?

My two 11xxx K1000 sound identical and amazing...

what he mean is serials with 2500ish the very first models. maybe you should sell one and buy a eailer production with lower serials to do a compare your self.
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post #12 of 16
11/17/06 at 9:31am
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post #13 of 16
11/19/06 at 11:50pm
Still unresolved, and still really interesting.

This reminds me of the recent chat here, I don't have the link, during which a K1000 owner felt there were strong differences in tone based on temperature. I can't begin to say what the culprit is, but there must be a clue among the (perhaps) 14,000 units that were made.
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post #14 of 16
11/20/06 at 12:49am
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Still unresolved, and still really interesting.

This reminds me of the recent chat here, I don't have the link, during which a K1000 owner felt there were strong differences in tone based on temperature. I can't begin to say what the culprit is, but there must be a clue among the (perhaps) 14,000 units that were made.
I think that the total is probably under 13,000.

The problem with this post is that superman asserts something that is not claimed. How many people who believe that the newer units have the new drivers actually state that they sound significantly better? What this post does suggest is that AKG perhaps did make minor, unadvertised changes during the K1000's long production run.

In any event, the K1000's biggest weakness is its stock cable.
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post #15 of 16
11/20/06 at 1:37pm
So, where do you get all these headphones to compare with the same system?

Give us a little reasoning as to why you listen to several of the same headphones, or what meet you compared them at.

Sorry - but some credibility is needed before I get close to buying any of your um.... curious statements
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