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Originally Posted by Contrastique View Post
I got it wrong and found it for you..It was Dex who came up with that info some weeks ago. I'll post it again for you here:

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I'll try to think of some questions and post them on your thread...

In the meantime, I had a nice chat the other day with Michael over at Ultrasone HQ who was kind enough to answer a few questions I had about the new range.

First off, the new facelift PROs have just arrived, with the revamped HFIs set to follow shortly. This means that both entire ranges should be available for sale in Europe and Asia by mid-November!

Michael also confirmed that both ranges will be introduced in North America shortly after the first of next year, since Ultrasone USA is on a slightly different marketing schedule."

Hope this will help you spend your money
Thank's, this will help me spend at least some of my money this christmas

Seriously, has anyone seen the new models in real life yet?
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Raising this thread back into focus.
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Originally Posted by slwiser View Post
Raising this thread back into focus.
Thank you!

Anyway, now my Edt. 9 have about 700 hours and o my God how I love these headphones! Since I got them, my hands never reached for my old
D2000.
Now currently I am listening them out of my imod and mini3 and very happy !

Can't wait when I am done with my balanced B22
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So...I've read about 70 pages (700 posts) of this thread, and I think that my next headphone purchase is going to be an Ultrasone.

I would really like a headphone for gaming/movies, and I think the 750 may be the ticket. However, before I've always heard the ATH-A900 was the best for that. Has anyone compared both headphones with regard to games/movies? I know that people said the 750 was better than the A900 but that was concerning music.

Also, does anyone know of a cheap place to buy the 750 from? If not, I guess I'll just wait for the FS/FT forum to open up.

Thanks in advance for your help!
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Norther sound and light. Call and they will quote you around $268 for a new pair.
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Originally Posted by Lee Brindley View Post
Im running stock Ed.9 and am due to take delivery of a RS Apache this week.

Anyone tried this combo and is a balanced re-cable really worth it?????

Regards
Lee
LDJ325 has the ed9 balanced. He was real pleased with that and I believe he preferred it over se. Look him up in this thread. I don't believe he has the same combo as you have but it'll give you some info on the topic.
If I am not mistaken Sovkiller also tried them balanced but didn't find the change huge and worth it. Could be wrong about this one though, my memory stopped serving me well
It all has been discussed in this thread, use the search function and it'll probably get you further.
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Which products of Ultrasone should I look at for high-end gaming headphones? I don't understand the difference between the Edition9, HFI and PROline headphones.
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Originally Posted by jgonino View Post
Norther sound and light. Call and they will quote you around $268 for a new pair.
Thanks, jgonino!!! And if anyone has any insight about my other question (or just about ATH-A900 vs PL750/2500 in general), I'd love to hear it!

(and holy crap my avatar is like 2x bigger now since after the outage... )
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Originally Posted by ocean` View Post
Which products of Ultrasone should I look at for high-end gaming headphones? I don't understand the difference between the Edition9, HFI and PROline headphones.
ultrasone.com The E9's retail for 1,500..
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Originally Posted by ocean` View Post
Which products of Ultrasone should I look at for high-end gaming headphones? I don't understand the difference between the Edition9, HFI and PROline headphones.
Lemme rephrase myself here and the comment above: Edition 9 hurts your wallet instead of your ears.

That being said, out of the Ultrasones I used, Proline 2500 has been the most effective for gaming (I run first-person shooters for the most part these days).
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If I am now looking for a good closed headphone with plenty of bass for quiet night-time listening, would the Proline 750 fit the bill?

I like the open and detailed sound of my Proline 2500 a little more than my HFI700DVD (which are still pretty darn nice but not as transparent), and my PL2500 have a lot more bass so far. So I'm thinking the Proline 750 is maybe a step up from my HFI700dvd too? Or, is a Beyer DT770-80 stock or a Darth Beyer, or a Denon D2000/5000 a better choice?

Believe it or not, my HFI700DVD don't have quite enough bass for quiet night-time listening. If I turn up the volume to hear the bass better, then the thin closed shell of the can leaks sound and bugs my wife.
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
If I am now looking for a good closed headphone with plenty of bass for quiet night-time listening, would the Proline 750 fit the bill?

I like the open and detailed sound of my Proline 2500 a little more than my HFI700DVD (which are still pretty darn nice but not as transparent), and my PL2500 have a lot more bass so far. So I'm thinking the Proline 750 is maybe a step up from my HFI700dvd too? Or, is a Beyer DT770-80 stock or a Darth Beyer, or a Denon D2000/5000 a better choice?

Believe it or not, my HFI700DVD don't have quite enough bass for quiet night-time listening. If I turn up the volume to hear the bass better, then the thin closed shell of the can leaks sound and bugs my wife.
If you think the 2500 is a step up from your hfi-700's I think you will consider the proline 750 to be that as well since they are "quite on par" with the 2500's. They do very good at low volume levels, I have never had a problem with their bass, although I'm not sure what kind of basshead you are .
If you like the Proline sound you will probably be disgusted by the DT770, at least I was. Boring hp with a bass that's just to muddy to describe. And that's about all they have. Haven't heard the rest of your mentioned hps.
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Originally Posted by Contrastique View Post
If you think the 2500 is a step up from your hfi-700's I think you will consider the proline 750 to be that as well since they are "quite on par" with the 2500's. They do very good at low volume levels, I have never had a problem with their bass, although I'm not sure what kind of basshead you are .
If you like the Proline sound you will probably be disgusted by the DT770, at least I was. Boring hp with a bass that's just to muddy to describe. And that's about all they have. Haven't heard the rest of your mentioned hps.
Well, I can't say I am a huge basshead. I think the Proline 2500 have just the right amount of bass right now. The HFI700DVD are very close to my ideal, but at quiet volumes the bass drops back too far. On the other hand, I thought the Denon D5000 had prolific muddy overbearing bass when I heard them. But, with being told they will tighten up with 100 hours on them, and that dynamat placed in the cups and back of the drivers helps if they don't improve enough, I kept them on "the list".

I left the Proline 650 off the list because of my reading about the gentleman who had to do similar dynamat mods that were done to the Denon cans, just to make his PL650 tolerable.

You said, "If you think the 2500 is a step up from your hfi-700's I think you will consider the proline 750 to be that as well since they are "quite on par" with the 2500's." "...If you like the Proline sound..." With your wording above, I am not sure that you, yourself, like the 2500 or 750. Is the Proline 750 your choice for yourself, or your choice for me?

If you have another suggestion, I am open to hearing it. I like the Ultrasone sound stage - is that what you mean by Proline sound? But, I am just as fine with the HD600 imaging, or STAX SR-Lambda imaging. I do find the soundstage of my HD25-1 or any of my Grado's to be little restricted vs the others.

I am not a huge fanboy of the PL2500 yet, as they don't have the natural "less colored" sound signature of the HFI700DVD. The HFI700DVD are much closer to my HD600 than my PL2500. The PL2500 are more peaky in the very highs and very lows, but the bass kicks nice. They are acceptable enough, and I've read a lot of praise for them once they hit 300 to 400+ hours.

Right now I am just using my my Macbook for a source, and EQ'ing the bass with iTunes or SRS iWOW. At other times I switch to my Lyrix amp with bass boost built-in, since my optical out CD player doesn't have bass boost.

Thanks,

Larry
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
I left the Proline 650 off the list because of my reading about the gentleman who had to do similar dynamat mods that were done to the Denon cans, just to make his PL650 tolerable.
Can't comment on that since I have never heard these myself.


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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
You said, "If you think the 2500 is a step up from your hfi-700's I think you will consider the proline 750 to be that as well since they are "quite on par" with the 2500's." "...If you like the Proline sound..." With your wording above, I am not sure that you, yourself, like the 2500 or 750. Is the Proline 750 your choice for yourself, or your choice for me?
I just putted it that way because I didn't really know if the sound of the 2500 was considered by you as big step up from the hfi-700's.
If it is to your ears than the 750 might do the trick for you. They are somewhat similar to the 2500's, just closed. There are differences between them, described in this thread somewhere by multiple people. I can't recall the differences exactly between the 2500 and 750 since it has been a long time I heard the 2500 next to the 750.
For me, I absolutely LOVE my 750's. So far I have yet to hear something that pleases my ears more (well, except for the ed9).

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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
If you have another suggestion, I am open to hearing it. I like the Ultrasone sound stage - is that what you mean by Proline sound? But, I am just as fine with the HD600 imaging, or STAX SR-Lambda imaging. I do find the soundstage of my HD25-1 or any of my Grado's to be little restricted vs the others.
I don't really have another suggestion since I haven't heard that many hps and from what I have heard the 750s are the best bang of the buck for me.
What I meant with the Proline-sound is the complete soundsig, not just the imaging.

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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
I am not a huge fanboy of the PL2500 yet, as they don't have the natural "less colored" sound signature of the HFI700DVD. The HFI700DVD are much closer to my HD600 than my PL2500. The PL2500 are more peaky in the very highs and very lows, but the bass kicks nice. They are acceptable enough, and I've read a lot of praise for them once they hit 300 to 400+ hours.
The peaks will get better a lot with enough burn-in. Same as with the 750. Maybe you want to wait for that and see if you really enjoy the 2500s for real before biting the bullet with the 750. That's about all the advice I can give you though. If you want to know more you could pm Dexdexter since he owns the 2500, 2200, 750 and 650. Noone better that can provide you of a comparism between them. Good luck!
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After having read up to page 175 of this most interesting thread during the course of several days, I decided that I had read enough to have a decent understanding of Ultrasone headphones. I felt that the excitement and devotion of the "ultrasonistas" here were incredible and also very inspiring which naturally lead to an explosion of Ultrasone followers. After silently reading this thread for so long, I thought it was time for me to say "hi" since I am a proud owner of the Proliine 750.

One funny thing is the fact that I purchased my 750 before having had the chance to read this thread. I don't exactly remember whose comment it was, but I had first learned of ultrasone headphones from somewhere here in Headfi and seemed like a very interesting headphone with this "S-Logic" thing as well as this claim that it was the only headphone that actually protected your health by blocking 99.99% of harmful electromagnetic waves (or whatever). Since I had been contemplating upgrading from my trusted Grados (SR-60 & 80) which I have used for I think 10 years now, I thought I would do a little researching on this "never heard of before" headphone.

Well, after googling here and there, I was surprised at the very positive comments on Ultrasone. I had been thinking of going for either the Grado RS-1 or GS-1000 (I am a Grado fan), but I decided that maybe I should try out something which is supposedly way different from conventional headphones.

After a lot of deliberation, I decided to buy the 750. I had been using open headphones for a long time and I know its benefits, but I decided I would try the closed-style 750 for (1) new experience, (2) wife acceptance factor, and (3) possible usage during commuting. Upon getting the Proline 750, I was taken by surprise at how good sounding this headphone with funny blue colour design was. I had been trying out the Grados (RS-1, GS-1000), Sennheisers (650), Beyers (990), Audio Technicas for an upgrade, but the strange thing was that this "never heard of" Ultrasone headphone came really close to (and in certain instances was actually better than) these well established headphones. This was something I had never expected and it was a really "pleasant" surprise since I was the owner of this marvel.

I am a believer in "burn-ins" and therefore I gave my 750 approximately 100 hours of burn in time. Post burn-in sound was "Oh my fxxxxxg God!", "How can this be possible?", "Why am I crying?"..... After this soul enlightening holy experience, I decided I needed to find out more about this "Headphone from God". Hence I searched "head-fi" and stumbled upon this Ultrasone treasure chest thread called "There's something about Ultrasone" and it was so interesting reading the posts of others who went through the exact same soul cleansing experience as I have. According to the advice of others on this thread, I have given another 100 hours of burn in with my Proline 750 and the music I hear now is simply "heavenly". Of course, it is extremely important to have properly recorded music since the 750 is so shockingly true to the original recording source.

In short, I would describe the Proline 750 as a mixture of the best qualities of RS-1 + HD-650 + Beyer 990 with the addition of the world's best (besides Edition 7 & 9, I guess) sounding bass (it's true, it sounds like you have the world's FINEST subwoofer inside your headphone) and incredible spaciousness. By the way, I found out that although the 750 sounds pretty good without amplification, you really ought to have a good headphone amp to really appreciate its capabilities.

Well, this is a little something that I wanted to add to this marvelous thread in appreciation for all the learning that I got from all the incredible Ultrasone followers here at headfi.

You guys and gals are the best!
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