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Ok, good thing.. It can only get better then...but the waiting....It's hooked up again and burning..
Btw, how are they pairing with your Lisa??
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Hope you find this a useful idea.
I think this is a real useful idea and a nice gesture to start with!
Can't come up with any questions atm but I think a lot of people will have some for sure, like the exact difference in build between the Proline 750 and the Ed9, as it seems to confuse a lot of people here. (ah, that was a question right haha )
post #4623 of 5935
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Exciting news about your interview coup, RD!

I'll try to think of some questions and post them on your thread...

In the meantime, I had a nice chat the other day with Michael over at Ultrasone HQ who was kind enough to answer a few questions I had about the new range.

First off, the new facelift PROs have just arrived, with the revamped HFIs set to follow shortly. This means that both entire ranges should be available for sale in Europe and Asia by mid-November!

Michael also confirmed that both ranges will be introduced in North America shortly after the first of next year, since Ultrasone USA is on a slightly different marketing schedule.

More specifically, I inquired about S-Logic Plus as featured in the newly-designed phones of the HFI and DJ series, which include the following:



HFI-580



HFI-680



HFI-780




DJ1

Michael confirmed that these are the first headphones to directly trickle-down enclosure advances that were first applied in the Edition 9s, hence the name S-Logic Plus. He explained that S-Logic Plus allows the smaller-volume enclosures of these cans to exhibit similar spatial characteristics to those found in the PRO series, and, of course, the Edition 9s.

So apparently, there's quite a bit more to these than meets the BLING!
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so beside cosmetic changes, new and old Proline should sound the same right??
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so beside cosmetic changes, new and old Proline should sound the same right??


Seems so. Though that raises a question, is Proline 650 worth to buy anymore compared to HFI-650, as the soundstage was the biggest difference thanks to different enclosure. Same drivers afterall.
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Btw, how are they pairing with your Lisa??
Have not tried them yet. Will PM you later this week.
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Originally Posted by Wotan1 View Post
Have not tried them yet. Will PM you later this week.
Ah, that's good. I'm looking forward!

Ow, and all you guys and gals, I just wanna thank you for everything. Every sharing we all did. I just went through my first threads and owwwww, what a bloody noob I was (well, still am though)!
It was so much fun getting to know you all and all this headfi stuff and I would love to meet all of you (again) and grab a beer or so with some headphones. Met some precious people that's nice!
Well, enough of this sentimental ****** Let's keep the love going
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Originally Posted by Cankin View Post
so beside cosmetic changes, new and old Proline should sound the same right??
Yes, exactly so.

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Originally Posted by MaZa View Post
Seems so. Though that raises a question, is Proline 650 worth to buy anymore compared to HFI-650, as the soundstage was the biggest difference thanks to different enclosure. Same drivers afterall.
Indeed, it will be really interesting to find out. I'm looking forward to testing out the new HFI-680 against both the older HFI-650 and PROline 650.

Keep in mind, however, that the new PROs, like the PROlines before them, are firstly targeted at the studio/professional sector, and as such include amenities like the multiple cables, speed-switch ear-pads, and, now, carrying case. As Michael explained, the HFI series is aimed more toward the consumer market.
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Keep in mind, however, that the new PROs, like the PROlines before them, are firstly targeted at the studio/professional sector, and as such include amenities like the multiple cables, speed-switch ear-pads, and, now, carrying case. As Michael explained, the HFI series is aimed more toward the consumer market.

Good point. AND, PL750 doesnt have HFI substitute yet so... God I love these headphones.
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I'm always wondering if the HFI2200 is the open version of PL650
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I am sure my answer is buried somewhere in these 200+ pages but is the HFI 700 a highly regarded closed phone in the Ultrasone arsenal?
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I am sure my answer is buried somewhere in these 200+ pages but is the HFI 700 a highly regarded closed phone in the Ultrasone arsenal?
Isn't that the phone that's recommended for movie-watching? Whereas the PROline 750 is recommended for music?
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Not sure- but that would be good info to have as I want a closed phone for music- not movies. Thanks for the heads up.
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I'm always wondering if the HFI2200 is the open version of PL650

You can stop wondering, it is. Much like PL2500 is open to PL750. Its unknown why it has HFI in its name though, it belongs to Proline serie with all its shape and stuff it comes with.
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I'm always wondering if the HFI2200 is the open version of PL650
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You can stop wondering, it is. Much like PL2500 is open to PL750. Its unknown why it has HFI in its name though, it belongs to Proline serie with all its shape and stuff it comes with.
Interestingly enough, I asked Michael about this very subject!



While he conceded that, yes, the HFI-2200s were in fact PROlines (and now of course PROs) in everything but name, he argued that, from a marketing standpoint, Ultrasone feel that they are better suited to the HFI line.

Michael said that the HFI (consumer) series needs an open-backed headphone in its line-up, and the smaller cup design of the new S-Logic Plus HFI series is suited only to closed models.

And, naturally, open headphones are generally not desirable under most professional/studio conditions. While I have heard of professionals using the PROline 2500s for mastering, the 2200s, with their warmer character and more-rounded frequency extremes, are obviously not as well-suited for such applications as the ruthlessly revealing PRO 2500s are.

So consequently, the HFI-2200s are not offered with the additional cable, ear-pads, and case as in the PRO series (although the first two can be purchased separately; not sure yet about the case, though).

I was happy to have Michael's answer, since I've been wondering about the positioning of the 2200s for some time now, and I can finally understand the logic behind Ultrasone's reasoning.

So, indeed, the HFI-2200s remain wonderful (and quite special in their own charming, easy-going way) consumer-grade headphones!
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