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post #2551 of 5935
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CMSS3D is a surround sound technology to produce surround sound out of a set of headphones or stereo speakers
Cmss3d is made for GAMES, not music at all. For best music output, switch to Audio Creation mode, and enable bit-accurate playback. Purest sound that X-FI is able to play, especially if your music player has ASIO output support too.
post #2552 of 5935
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Cmss3d is made for GAMES, not music at all. For best music output, switch to Audio Creation mode, and enable bit-accurate playback. Purest sound that X-FI is able to play, especially if your music player has ASIO output support too.
It´s made for gaming and movies but also works for some music .
What is the highest sound quality? Clean flat sound or full surround sound . For me it´s a tradeoff between the two that creates the experience.
There is quite a bit of a difference in sound stage on different headphones.

Thanks for the tips on bit perfect I thought it was only for running digital out to a DAC.

I tried it now but I don´t know if there is any difference? Maybe it´s more useful for mp3s then cds?
post #2553 of 5935
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Originally Posted by oqvist View Post
It´s made for gaming and movies but also works for some music .
What is the highest sound quality? Clean flat sound or full surround sound . For me it´s a tradeoff between the two that creates the experience.
There is quite a bit of a difference in sound stage on different headphones.

Thanks for the tips on bit perfect I thought it was only for running digital out to a DAC.

I tried it now but I don´t know if there is any difference? Maybe it´s more useful for mp3s then cds?

For me, the highest quality of sound is that is least altered by DSP chips. Bitperfect mode disables all chips from the line of music except DAC and opamp. Difference might not be clear at all, X-Fi does good job playing music with Audio Creation mode only.
post #2554 of 5935
Yeah only problem we have is the people behind the mixer table then .

I just go with what my ears likes the most. However my ears absolutely hate the ultrasones now. Listened to them to much yesterday and today it´s like torture for your ears. They put some inner pressure on them I really need to take some vacation after this cd is finished lol.

Couldn´t endure it if it wasn´t for the music
post #2555 of 5935
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Hey Pär, has the CanAmp arrived yet?
post #2556 of 5935
nope. I don´t expect it before the middle of next week
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nope. I don´t expect it before the middle of next week
Ah, it'll be there before you know it!

Of course, then there's the burn-in...
post #2558 of 5935
yeah sucks doesn´t it...

Thinking of it why don´t the headphone manufacturers do that in factory? They do it for speakers I know and for some amps. I guess they have no time doing it on the heeds...
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Thinking of it why don´t the headphone manufacturers do that in factory? They do it for speakers I know and for some amps. I guess they have no time doing it on the heeds...
You know, I thought that very thing about Ultrasones. But upon further reflection, I suspect this would add tremendous costs in both time and labor that would ultimately price their headphones right out of the market.
post #2560 of 5935
I would suggest that this would not end the burn-in issue at all. We would still be arguing just how much more burn-in would these things need.

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You know, I thought that very thing about Ultrasones. But upon further reflection, I suspect this would add tremendous costs in both time and labor that would ultimately price their headphones right out of the market.
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I would suggest that this would not end the burn-in issue at all. We would still be arguing just how much more burn-in would these things need.
Quite possibly. But for me anyway, the burn-in was a most intriguing process, and I believe it improved my understanding of my Ultrasones' capabilities. As with anything subjective, some people accept it and some don't.
post #2562 of 5935
It would take away these dramatic difference in term of sound. And I don´t see except for electricity bill it would be so expensive having headphones hanging on burn in... I mean they don´t take up much storage place at all compared to speakers... That is unless they sell more then they have time to produce which is kind of unlikely...

It´s pretty cool how they change but for those impatient it´s kind of annoying having to wait two weeks before you fully hear what they are good for.
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It would take away these dramatic difference in term of sound. And I don´t see except for electricity bill it would be so expensive having headphones hanging on burn in... I mean they don´t take up much storage place at all compared to speakers...
I think when a company has a system of manufacturing in place where they need to coordinate raw materials, parts, and assembly (and some of that most likely in the Far East), I'm guessing the last thing they want to do is tack an additional two weeks, shifting around inventory, warehousing it to burn-in, labor, electricity, etc. when it could be delivered to distributors and begin the turnaround of cash-flow.

Seemingly small things have huge ripple effects up the chain of manufacture and can really impact margins accordingly, which are probably extremely tight to begin with.
post #2564 of 5935

Proline 750 burn in complete

After waiting 3 weeks to finally receive my proline 750s I too, was a bit frustrated with the burn in process, especially after waiting so long for the cans...However, with the great insights gained from this thread and Dex I have to tell you it was well worth the wait! The overall tonal balance and expanded soundstage have exceeded my expectations. Need to drop a line the the headroom guys to re-do their evaluation...this is one incredible set of cans. I was looking for something to match the mids and upper registers of my ety er4ps and boy did this deliver. I have to say they better the ety transparancy while supplying the bottom end foundation to make for an extraordinary listening experience. Highly recommended as everyone else has stated...but you MUST burn these guys in for the 200 hours. just be patient.

Equipment:
Proline 750s
RSA Hornet
ALO jumbo cryo mini to mini
RWA iMod using apple lossless compression
post #2565 of 5935
I found it quite interesting following the burn-in of my cans. Because I read so much about it I was thinking like..would I be able to notice this for myself or is it just mumbo-jumbo talking into the air? And it was really there and I liked hearing my cans to change during that time. Quite a remarkable thing. I hope (for me) that they never start doing that at the factory, it would take away the fun of listening to their evoluation.
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