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post #2101 of 2486

For sure! I have an aunt and cousin who live there, so it's not too unlikely that I'll be around there sometime. I'll be sure to let you know if I'm up there. For the really fine nibs, it would have to be Japanese for a modern one. I think Pilot has a few cheaper models that are good. For a better bang for the buck but a little more hassle, you might want to go vintage. The vintage nib scale is the same as the Japanese one, so an old Western fine nib is finer than a typical modern Western extra fine. Some really good value vintage pens that come in very fine nibs are the Esterbrooks, the Eversharp Skyline, and the 70's pocket pens from Sailor, Pilot, and Platinum.

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I do have and quite like that ink as well. Diamine is underrated overall, IMO. But keep in mind that Prussian blue is actually gray; some people don't know this beforehand and are disappointed when they get it.

It's more of a steely blue imo. Diamine being UK based so it's pretty easy for me to get it, probably more of a pain if you have to get it shipped over the atlantic. By UK based...they're literally in the same city as me, 7miles away from where I am now. :D

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For sure! I have an aunt and cousin who live there, so it's not too unlikely that I'll be around there sometime. I'll be sure to let you know if I'm up there. For the really fine nibs, it would have to be Japanese for a modern one. I think Pilot has a few cheaper models that are good. For a better bang for the buck but a little more hassle, you might want to go vintage. The vintage nib scale is the same as the Japanese one, so an old Western fine nib is finer than a typical modern Western extra fine. Some really good value vintage pens that come in very fine nibs are the Esterbrooks, the Eversharp Skyline, and the 70's pocket pens from Sailor, Pilot, and Platinum.

Sweet! Too bad there's a really high chance that whenever you have time off to come up to see those relatives, I'll also have time off and be back at home. Oh well, lol

How hard would it be to find an affordable and working vintage pen on eBay? Sounds like a bit of a daunting task to me to be honest. 

post #2104 of 2486

It shouldn't be too hard, although ideally you'd be able to handle it yourself in person. There are pen shows, antique stores, and swap meets for that. Just be sure that the nib and feed are in good condition as those are the most likely to be damaged. You will want to soak your pen in water with some dishwashing detergent or ammonia to break up any dried ink. And if it's the Esterbrook or Eversharp, you may need to replace the sac, which isn't too hard. They sell replacement sacs in various sizes, and you can secure them in place with shellac (if you can't find any sold in small quantities I should have a bag around here and I can mail you a few chips). The Esterbrooks have steel nibs that are interchangeable; the Eversharps come in 14k gold nibs, and the pocket pens can be gold or steel. It should be fairly easy to find working models with gold nibs for under $40, though. I got 4 Japanese pens with gold nibs for under $40 combined when I went to a Japanese swap meet (they're not quite as cheap outside the country).

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It arrived! Here's some terrible test writing(I have no fine motor control when I wake up).

...  Saw on reddit... :D

post #2106 of 2486
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How hard would it be to find an affordable and working vintage pen on eBay? Sounds like a bit of a daunting task to me to be honest. 

 

Thing is, there's no point in buying a vintage pen unless you get something special.

 

Most buy vintage pens due to:

(a) The nib

(b) Looks and materials like ebonite/celluloid with designs that aren't made anymore.

(c) Heritage.  Pens like the Parker 51.

 

Ebay can be risky when it comes to vintage pens, some may not turn out to be what you expect. It goes both ways.

 

If you're not a collector, and just looking for a well restored or NOS vintage like the Parker 45/51/61 and Sheaffer Triumph/Balance, you can take a look at Peytonstreetpens. The prices are alright, they also have new old stock for some pens, and they do a good job of restoring them before selling.

 

EDIT: For a new pen, you can also get the Pilot Metropolitan. Its under $20, well balanced, with the usual good quality Pilot nib.


Edited by proton007 - 10/20/13 at 7:45pm
post #2107 of 2486

I'd have to disagree. Vintage pens offer a great value compared to modern ones, even if they're not particularly special. Most do offer features that are special today like celluloid or ebonite bodies and lever filling, but even not counting that you'd be hard pressed to find a modern fountain pen with a solid gold nib for anywhere near the prices vintage ones go for.

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I'd have to disagree. Vintage pens offer a great value compared to modern ones, even if they're not particularly special. Most do offer features that are special today like celluloid or ebonite bodies and lever filling, but even not counting that you'd be hard pressed to find a modern fountain pen with a solid gold nib for anywhere near the prices vintage ones go for.

 

Yes, but then it depends what you mean by value. If you just count the nib material, the amount of gold in a nib isn't worth much.

 

If the pen is to be used, the writing experience matters, and vintage pens that provide a good writing experience aren't cheap. You can easily see that in the price vintage flex nibs go for.

If for collection, however, its alright.

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I'd have to disagree. Vintage pens offer a great value compared to modern ones, even if they're not particularly special. Most do offer features that are special today like celluloid or ebonite bodies and lever filling, but even not counting that you'd be hard pressed to find a modern fountain pen with a solid gold nib for anywhere near the prices vintage ones go for.

Yes and no.  There are Japanese pens with solid gold nibs for less than $60 imported.  Gold nibs on western pens are far more expensive than they should be.  The amount of money that a gold nib is worth in gold is a few dollars, not the hundreds of dollars premiums that is put on them.

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Yes and no.  There are Japanese pens with solid gold nibs for less than $60 imported.  Gold nibs on western pens are far more expensive than they should be.  The amount of money that a gold nib is worth in gold is a few dollars, not the hundreds of dollars premiums that is put on them.


You're not looking in the right places then. :wink_face:

 

I got an Eversharp Skyline with a 14k nib for $35 at a pen show, and an Eversharp Round Doric at an antique store for $50. Keep in mind that these are full-sized nibs, not the small hooded ones that you might usually find at the lower price range. The Japanese pocket pens are even cheaper, I have 4 working ones with gold nibs that I got for about $10 each at a swap meet.

post #2111 of 2486

So, I visited out University's bookstore today to look at fountain pens. Turns out all the fountain pens they sold that were "affordable" by my standards either didn't come in a fine/extra fine nib or they were out of them...

They did have Lamy replacement nibs for $13 though, which seems fair. I might end up getting an EF nib for now once they're back in stock, and then just look at what shows up on Black Friday. *Assuming there are Black Friday sales on pens*

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It seems like Cross pens are heavily represented at university bookstores. I've had a couple, and I don't think they'd be what you're looking for. Have you considered Chinese pens from Hero? The quality obviously isn't as good as the Japanese pens, but they do use a similar size scale. And they're significantly cheaper. So you might have to buy a few to get one that works really well, but you'll end up not spending much. That being said, don't devote a lot of money to their pen lottery. I got the first gold nib pen they released and it didn't work well.

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It seems like Cross pens are heavily represented at university bookstores. I've had a couple, and I don't think they'd be what you're looking for. Have you considered Chinese pens from Hero? The quality obviously isn't as good as the Japanese pens, but they do use a similar size scale. And they're significantly cheaper. So you might have to buy a few to get one that works really well, but you'll end up not spending much. That being said, don't devote a lot of money to their pen lottery. I got the first gold nib pen they released and it didn't work well.

Yeah, they had a lot of Cross pens on display. The lady didn't even show any of them to me, so she must've known they were outta my price range.

I'll probably look into them a bit more in the future. Bowei ordered one a few days ago, so when he gets his in I'll see how he likes it and go from there.

post #2114 of 2486
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Yeah, they had a lot of Cross pens on display. The lady didn't even show any of them to me, so she must've known they were outta my price range.

I'll probably look into them a bit more in the future. Bowei ordered one a few days ago, so when he gets his in I'll see how he likes it and go from there.

 

Do you have a particular budget in mind?

 

 

A lot of students also prefer the Pilot Vanishing Point. It can be found used for under $100.


Edited by proton007 - 10/21/13 at 10:20pm
post #2115 of 2486
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Yeah, they had a lot of Cross pens on display. The lady didn't even show any of them to me, so she must've known they were outta my price range.

I'll probably look into them a bit more in the future. Bowei ordered one a few days ago, so when he gets his in I'll see how he likes it and go from there.

 

Do you have a particular budget in mind?

Less than $30, preferably. 

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