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post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
Hi head-fi-ers.

I have an interesting opportunity. Actually, I've had it for some time, but little did I know. My father's a Brit, my mom's American, and he's non-naturalized (Green Card). Technically, that means that I'm eligible to claim UK citizenship via ius sanguinis (and receive my UK passport). Very handy for working/living/getting into the EU.... Which would be nice (ah, Ireland..)

There are two small roadblocks, though. One of them is US law. The way I understand it, if you declare that you're renouncing your US citizenship during the declaration of citizenship to the other country, you've just given up your right to stay in the country (as a US citizen). So, if the UK version of "swearing allegiance" includes wording along the lines of "I, so-and-so, pledge my allegiance to the Queen and renounce any other citizenship I may hold.", the deal's done for.

The second roadblock is the bit on the out-of-country passport request form that asks for your passport (current). I'm not comfortable with surrendering my passport to a foreign embassy, for obvious reasons. If they don't take photocopies, what can I do?

Would like to hear from anyone who's done something like this, or from a current UK head-fier who's can remember the bit from receiving their passport where you raise your hand and say some words

-Viverr
post #2 of 19
I'm a British citizen living in California. I have a green card and hold a British passport. The only reason I have not become a U.S. citizen is they require you to renounce any prior citizenship, and I just wont give up my British status. As far as I know the UK doesn't care and welcomes dual citizenship.
post #3 of 19
I don't know how, but I number of my friends and relatives have dual U.S. and Irish Citizenship.
post #4 of 19
Thread Starter 
Hmmm..
I didn't realize that the US asked immigrants to give up their prior nationality. Is that a new addition to the process with the whole fervor surrounding illegal immigration? I know that with some countries, it wouldn't matter (you need to renounce your citizenship in the country of origin before a judge in some countries to officially lose your citizenship).

The fact that some people have dual-citizenship is enough to tell me it can be done, so that keeps the hopes up (thanks, pds6)! The only thing holding me back is that here, it really could hurt to try! I don't want to wind up stateless and out of the country seeking refuge in Iceland! Not that Iceland's a bad place...

-V
post #5 of 19
My bad, apparently they made some changes to the policy 10 or so years ago (shows how often I look into it!). Maybe I'll reconsider it now.

http://www.uscitizenship.info/citizenship-lib-dual.htm
post #6 of 19
I know my mom had to give up her Mexican citizenship when she became an American citizen. but according to Mexican law, when i was born both my parents were Mexican citizens living in the US, and therefore i can become a Mexican citizen...but i don't know if this means in relation to the US, as if whether i can or cannot hold dual citizenship.


but seriously, alligence to the queen AND the US constitution... that's just wrong... j/k
post #7 of 19
Thread Starter 
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but seriously, alligence to the queen AND the US constitution... that's just wrong... j/k
Just think of the wonderful misnomer it would make of the old "For Queen and Country" phrase.
post #8 of 19
Ah to live in the UK, would that I could. Let me know how this works out, I've been wondering whether I could do it after college or not and how hard it is.
post #9 of 19
Pretty sure gaining UK Citizenship does not involve renouncing any other Citizenship you may hold. I'm coming at it from the other way- I shall be getting dual Citizenship by adding Australian Citizenship to my birth right of British, but my wife will be adding British to her Australian Citizenship eventually, and as far as I know there are no problems with this. I should do it if I were you- a British passport is gold for opportunities in Europe...
post #10 of 19
Not sure about the paper work, but you can definitely hold dual US-UK citizenship, two of my cousins have recently done this and it hasn't affected their US citizenship status.
post #11 of 19
Viverr...
I just completed the process a couple of weeks ago..I was a Brit, married to an American and living over here for 18 or so years. Finally a snippet of info from a fellow Brit here at work pushed me into going for my US citizenship. I won't go in to it too much, but that news coupled with the fact that I couldn't vote on anything (including my two sons school voting...bonds etc.) made me start the process back in the spring through our local BOCES. Painless.
I still have my Brit passport - no-one ever asked for it - and will be getting my US one soon, but I had to give up my Green Card. They told me I was free to exit the US any way I wished, but had to re-enter on my US passport only. My voting info came in the mail yesterday..just in time for Nov.7th..so I am all set there.
So - long story short - I guess I am a dual-citizen. Funnily enough I don't feel any different about it. Still live and die with Hearts of the Scottish FA, follow the cricket scores avidly all summer long via the BBC, play a very non-US sport in Squash but became totally hooked on Ice Hockey two or three months after we moved here. My wife still says it's the dumbest move she ever made. My, don't my Sabres look good right now?
Anyway, advice? Go for it!
Good Luck.
post #12 of 19
NacMacFeegle said:


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made me start the process back in the spring through our local BOCES
I reside in south carolina and being French (lived in US for more than 20 years), I'm thinking about applying for US nationality. What is this BOCES? Is it available in all the states and how to you start the process? Any info, would help.
post #13 of 19
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Originally Posted by NacMacFeegle
Viverr...
Funnily enough I don't feel any different about it. Still live and die with Hearts of the Scottish FA,
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...an/6091336.stm

Way to motivate players !
post #14 of 19
I've actually got a tri-citizenship!

I was born in New York City, USA so I have a US passport and citizenship.

Then because my parents are Chinese, I lived in Hong Kong for ages and I've got a Hong Kong Permanent ID Card, which means I have the right of abode in Hong Kong and can go into China without having to apply for a visa.

Four years ago, I applied for a UK passport and I got one! For some reason, the US embassy also let me get it too!

Travelling couldn't be easier with three forms of identification, although you are really only supposed to carry one. I can go to most countries without a visa.
post #15 of 19
Just FYI, unlike most other countries, US requires its citizens and legal residents to pay tax on income gained outside the country. Although it's waived for anyone who made less then 80K. Just don't forget to file.
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