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post #1 of 24
11/30/02 at 2:55am
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http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.p...068&class&3&4&

anyone know anything about these? dual drivers.... cool looking. worth checking out?
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post #2 of 24
11/30/02 at 2:57am
i take it that they're the same thing as these things .
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post #3 of 24
11/30/02 at 3:17am
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah..................

Those are the very phones that brought me to headfiwise (which in turn materialized a black hole in my wallet). They keep coming back to haunt me, but I haven't seen a detailed review yet. There was a fellow Head-Fi member who mentioned owning them briefly. I finally gave up and decided to order a pair from J&R, only to find that they don't list them anymore. I have to hear these things! Do they really exist? I will try them if there is a reasonable return policy.


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post #4 of 24
11/30/02 at 3:28am
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welp, they look really trick. wish i could audition a pair somewhere. no reviews of these things anywhere? very strange...
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post #5 of 24
11/30/02 at 3:33am
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Originally posted by Greg Freeman
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah..................

Those are the very phones that brought me to headfiwise (which in turn materialized a black hole in my wallet). They keep coming back to haunt me, but I haven't seen a detailed review yet. There was a fellow Head-Fi member who mentioned owning them briefly. I finally gave up and decided to order a pair from J&R, only to find that they don't list them anymore. I have to hear these things! Do they really exist? I will try them if there is a reasonable return policy.


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I saw them hanging at their display at jandr a while back. I didn't bother trying them on. They sures hell look comfy though.
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post #6 of 24
11/30/02 at 3:33am
Don't forget to bi-amp them
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post #7 of 24
11/30/02 at 3:47am
Of course I will bi-amp them, that's the whole point! I can't wait to start a discussion about what cable is best for LF driver and which for HF driver. ...not to mention the tube/solidstate combination debates. These things could fuel arguments for the next year!

btw, does Panasonic make any phones in between the $20 variety and the $350 wunderkans? Kinda makes me suspicious...


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post #8 of 24
11/30/02 at 5:05am
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how would you biamp it?--do you mean to modify it to accept two separate cables per stereo pair of speakers? that sounds pretty complicated... ?--or is there something in their design that suggests that it could be easier on this model?
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post #9 of 24
11/30/02 at 5:26am
They appear to be extremely comfortable but I really do not think that they are worth the price.

Here's a review from HiFiChoice:
http://www.hifichoice.co.uk/review_print.asp?ID=1440

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post #10 of 24
11/30/02 at 6:27am
that pic makes them look even more bizarre than they already do. the stand is really cool though..
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post #11 of 24
11/30/02 at 11:38am
Panasonic/Technics doesn't make anything, per se. It's always been a marketing company that markets its suppliers' products under its own name or has its suppliers build equipment to spec for it. For the most part, Panasonic/Technic's suppliers provide the R&D support. Would be interesting to know where these cans were sourced from and thereby their R&D lineage.
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post #12 of 24
11/30/02 at 12:37pm
Orpheus, we have had the bi-amp discussion going on these things for a while now. It may not be feasible, but it certainly intrigues me. The thing that would make it possible is that these phones have dual drivers (LF and HF) on each side. I would have to get at their internal x-over and rewire from there. Considering the price of these cans, I doubt that I would do it really. Still, fun to ponder.

Old Pa, interesting point. I have no clue who makes them. I've never seen anything similar. I thought that Panasonic was part of Matsu****a, but I don't know where the design and engineering happens.


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post #13 of 24
11/30/02 at 1:02pm
Blighty's hifichoice review link suggests a primary component of these cans is eyewash.
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post #14 of 24
11/30/02 at 1:15pm
Are you suggesting that a manufacturer would use a pretty design and technojargon to lure in us head-cases? That would be like using pretty wood or titanium...

uh, wait, nevermind



btw, do you really own N800s? I am terribly jealous!


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post #15 of 24
11/30/02 at 1:44pm
Greg: Kind of like the marketing folks convincing everybody they needed a truck for their daily ride?

I'm still kind of stunned myself (to say nothing of the reaction from She-Who-Must-Be-Obeyed), about the N800s, but I guess they just sort of followed me home last summer. Did not go for the Signatures, for although that birdseye maple was gorgeous, there was no audible improvement. I had the Frieds for over 20 years, so I guessed it would be safe to say I was probably going to be doing the hifi thing for the duration. The N800s just keep on breaking in and sounding better and better.
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