in regard to ac power cables,
i was just thinking about this thread.
i would like to point out something that might have gotten lost in all of this. i think there was some mention of this.
iec sockets and their resulting internal connections are a terible host for a decent cable. if you are getting cables like this, my opinion is that they must be soldered to the power supply rails. why stop there? you should solder all the internal jumpered conections and replace all internal cables. otherwise you end up with an experimental "crock pot" of flavors.
iec sockets were first developed to meet osha requirements for industry and hospitals. this way there is no reason not to replace a compromised cable.
it opened up yet another cottage industry for suppliers of audiophile "tweaks".
ever hear of a bottle neck?
pop the top and have a look-see at what you are hooking this up to.
as both an engineer and audiophile i am torn on this subject.
i feel industrial quality cabling is the best solution sonically. industrial quality cabling is rather inexpensive. a cables job is to deliver clean power free of interference. industrial spec cable does just that.
deisgner cables add "flavor". all add one spice or another. or a mixture. i personally try to design systems for myself that are completely true to the source. of course most audiohpiles tastes tend to differ from mine.
you may find it intresting that the few amplifier sets that run six figures($usd)
use captive industrial quality cables. not only will replacing the cable void your hundred grand amps warranty, mark lev and krell will strongly advise against this. safety is at stake. even if the installation is preformed by qualified service persons. these amps require dedicated branches and draw more current than the iec spec allows for.
there are several reasons for these amps having captive cables. however, i strongly doubt they decided to skimp on what cable was permanently mated to cost no object audiophile products. they could have spec'd any cable they wished so long as it could meet the current demands. at that price nothing was stopping them from using exotic cables. they most likely wanted their amps of that caliber to sound as they do by themselves.
now, look at both points i made above. most of us do not have components like that. most components have a iec socket on the back. go look what is inside of most of these components. low grade cabling all the way down to the existence of ribbon cables. the low level tends to be inches from the high level even in $5,000 components.
i truly do think that expensive aftermarket cables change the sound of components and the overall system.
they in my opinion do exactly the following:
Originally Posted by Patrick82
If I would make a cable Nordost Valhalla would be the design, it has it all. It's too fat which compensates for vibration and hides background noise, it has silver plating to compensate for a muddy system and give fake detail and transparency. The stock Valhalla exaggerates the black and white levels to bring fake dynamics. The problem is it sacrifices a lot of detail in the process which most people don't want anyway since they use tubes...
this is a very convincing agrument that the cables you adore(and all of them) do change the sound of a system. from this i read that they tend to make a good system sound terrible
maybe they bandaid a poorly designed system.
i like crushed red pepper on a slice of pizza. however, i doubt i would like the entire shaker ontop of it. nor would i pay 20 times extra for this displeasure.
every time i go against the audiophile mantra i expect to get screamed at. to my surprise a lot of people tend to agree with my limited views of audiophiledom. this is why i love the internet. i would not test these theories at a social event lol.
btw, patrick82. i was not intending to put words in your mouth. that is how i personally understood the quoted statement of yours. that is also exactly how i hear these cables. being truthful, i do not care for them either.
the examples of 6 figure amps may be extreme. i do feel they are warranted however. since nordhost cables also tend to be of extremes. hmm. $500 sonys are "wired with monster cable". maybe krell and mark lev could get together with nordhost and raise the price another 50 grand(a joke).