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post #2911 of 3102

Very vice looking pair you got there.  I absolutely adore my set, anytime i go back to the 80i's i give up after 10-15mins and go back to the MS1's, they are that much better.   I also dont understand how people say they lack bass, IMO they have more full bodied low end than the 80i's, and similar high end without being piercing and fatiguing.  Infact when i first got them the better low end had me sold within the first minute of listening, they really are that much better than the 80i's. Only other can that get as much use are the HD650's, and dare i say it i think i prefer the MS1's.

 

I have a set of 225i's on the way, that should be an interesting comparison. Though Semicoln's comment above has me a little concerned...

post #2912 of 3102

They really, honestly shoot well against a lot of my better headphones. The detail retrieval is rivalling some high-end IEMs, which is a pretty crazy thought.

 

Are the drivers the same/similar as high end Grado units? Is the housing the main difference? 

 

I expected a very tinny, cheap sounding experience, but I was certainly wrong. 

post #2913 of 3102

I have read on numerous sites they are modded 125i drivers but can only assume that is speculation.  The one thing that does bother me with that theory is the Alessandro specs claim the MS1's have a UHPLC voice coil wire and 20 - 22K Frequency response, looking at the Grado site the 125i doesn't have either, but the 225i has UHPLC and 20 - 22K response.  Only Grado/Allessandro know for sure..

 

Also the MS2 specs seems to match the 325i specs perfectly too..


Edited by mcandmar - 9/30/13 at 7:25am
post #2914 of 3102
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Originally Posted by White Lotus View Post
 

They really, honestly shoot well against a lot of my better headphones. The detail retrieval is rivalling some high-end IEMs, which is a pretty crazy thought.

 

Are the drivers the same/similar as high end Grado units? Is the housing the main difference? 

 

I expected a very tinny, cheap sounding experience, but I was certainly wrong. 

 

The drivers are almost certainly the same basic units in the 'prestige' line (SR60i-SR325i, with the MS1i sitting in the middle.) They are more closely matched as you move up the line, and the 225i/325i have better cables.

 

There's also some debate as to whether the 225i/325i are doped in some way to improve the sound (e.g. reduce distortion or  improve bass response.)

 

Having directly compared some MS1i, 225i & 325i myself, I did perceive subtle differences, but they were really very subtle indeed ... the pressure exerted by the headband / placement of the pads made much more difference. I'd say MS1i with L cushions pads is  essentially as 'good' sonically as a 225i/325i.

 

I've never tried a high-end grado, but from everything I've read, the RS1i/RS2i use the same drivers, tweaked a little further still. I also think they have some damping compound on the rear of the driver to reduce resonance (which you can do yourself on your MS1i with blu tack). 

post #2915 of 3102
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Originally Posted by mcandmar View Post

I have a set of 225i's on the way, that should be an interesting comparison. Though Semicoln's comment above has me a little concerned...

The 225i is very good and I can tell it is technically a better can because of the instrument separation and sound stage difference. I hear a bit more of the highs and a bit less of the mids when compared to the MS1i but I think my personal preference may be toward the more level presentation of the Alessandro sound. Both have equally pleasing bass. The 225i is a bit heavier, mostly because of the cable. For my taste and uses, I don't really see a need to own both and I'm considering selling one and moving into the RS line.
post #2916 of 3102
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Originally Posted by semicoln View Post

The 225i is very good and I can tell it is technically a better can because of the instrument separation and sound stage difference. I hear a bit more of the highs and a bit less of the mids when compared to the MS1i but I think my personal preference may be toward the more level presentation of the Alessandro sound. Both have equally pleasing bass.

Agreed. I have MS1 for a while and then modded it to MS 1000. I now have 225i with aftermarket cable and wood cups. By far the biggest difference between the two is the greater sense of separation and space in the 225. As far as Grado cans go, I say the 225 is the sweet spot of the lineup. MS1 would be a close second.
post #2917 of 3102

I just plugged the MS-1 into my laptop and these things rock, even with AAC files (320 kbps VBR)!

 

Normally, they are connected to my portable CD player... guess they like the extra juice.

post #2918 of 3102
Just got my today
Awesome for portable use
post #2919 of 3102

Really great sound for the price, :D

 

but the headband and pads are really bad, I ll probably buy replacements

post #2920 of 3102

Can anyone tell me how these compare to "high end grado" cans?

 

(Not to be rude, but preferably someone who doesn't actually OWN high end Grado cans. As it may...Err.. Sway their opinions a little bit. You know.)

post #2921 of 3102
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Originally Posted by White Lotus View Post
 

Can anyone tell me how these compare to "high end grado" cans?

 

(Not to be rude, but preferably someone who doesn't actually OWN high end Grado cans. As it may...Err.. Sway their opinions a little bit. You know.)

 

I can't tell you, then... (RS1i here). 

:D

post #2922 of 3102
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Originally Posted by Edgard Varese View Post
 

 

I can't tell you, then... (RS1i here). 

:D

I'd be interested in a comparison with an RS1i !

post #2923 of 3102

-nevermind-


Edited by mcandmar - 10/2/13 at 10:39am
post #2924 of 3102
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Originally Posted by sinnottj View Post
 

I'd be interested in a comparison with an RS1i !

 

 

It will be a more useful comparison when I try out the L-pads on the MS1 (not i), but (in my estimation) the RS1i offers greater clarity and detail, while having overall a different kind of sound signature, more forward like a typical Grado as opposed to a more restrained Alessandro presentation.  At the same time, it's not particularly forgiving of poor sources.  Still, overall I think it's better. Whether it's X number of dollars better is another question entirely.

post #2925 of 3102

I am late to the party, but I love mine. 

I primarily run them through my Bottlehead Crack and stream FLAC from my QNAP server. I keep these bedside as spend a lot of time reading and writing there (have a bad back). 

I just fixed my 14 year old Beyer DT770 's last night -- my pup destroyed one of the drivers last year, which lead me to the MS1 purchase -- I really love the midrange and forward tone of the Grado's. 

 

 

Now with the 770's fixed and I have been able to do head to head comparisons, I think I am ready to do some mods to the MS1's. I am going to start with the L -cush, but I really want to look into something that helps extend the bass (I love the tight punchy bass of the MS1) and something that spreads out the presentation just a bit to let the detail come through better. 

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