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post #16 of 26
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Thanks guys...I will check out the U3....I want something for the gym and riding my motorcycle (the wind is driving me nuts sometimes)...
post #17 of 26
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Originally Posted by Siebel
iAudio 6

Plays Flac and Ogg....

Siebel
Not good for the gym due to a (0.85-inch) HDD inside.
post #18 of 26
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Originally Posted by adam917
Not good for the gym due to a (0.85-inch) HDD inside.
I thought so too...but most people run with iPods with hard disks....seems to work just fine and no one complains about skipping....
post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by Trogdor
I thought so too...but most people run with iPods with hard disks....seems to work just fine and no one complains about skipping....
They all have some small amount of flash memory to buffer what is going to be played, then spins down the disk until it needs more data, which is why they don't skip. You might be able to run with a hard drive and have it keep working for a while, but there's some fine stuff in there and you're playing with fire.
post #20 of 26
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Originally Posted by bungle
They all have some small amount of flash memory to buffer what is going to be played, then spins down the disk until it needs more data, which is why they don't skip. You might be able to run with a hard drive and have it keep working for a while, but there's some fine stuff in there and you're playing with fire.
(I know how hard disks work but thanks)

Its not as bad as you think (disk buffer caches and internal bad block remapping asside). I've heard very few reports of iPODs dying due to a bad disk. Even my several year old Archos Jukebox is still working after all the abuse in terms of movement (heck I dropped it several times while it was on).

I agree solid-state is better and in time might be the dominant form factor, but I wouldn't rule out a hard disk based storage unit for the gym.
post #21 of 26
The day you drop the player - and you will when working out - you will realize that there is an ocean of difference between flash and hard drive. One which "buffering" is irrelevant to.
post #22 of 26
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Originally Posted by Trogdor
(I know how hard disks work but thanks)
My bad

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Originally Posted by Trogdor
Its not as bad as you think (disk buffer caches and internal bad block remapping asside). I've heard very few reports of iPODs dying due to a bad disk. Even my several year old Archos Jukebox is still working after all the abuse in terms of movement (heck I dropped it several times while it was on).

I agree solid-state is better and in time might be the dominant form factor, but I wouldn't rule out a hard disk based storage unit for the gym.
I think it's just a percentage game. I think they probably try to make them fairly shock resistant, but it just takes that one lucky bump... With a flash player the probability is so near zero it really doesn't matter. Personally, regardless of durability, I can't see how people stand to have a big hard drive player strapped to their arm while working out.
post #23 of 26
pre 2000, people used to workout with CD players. We've become sooo spoiled.
post #24 of 26
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Originally Posted by timmins
pre 2000, people used to workout with CD players. We've become sooo spoiled.
I still see people with those - not sure why. In college DAPs didn't exist, but they gym we went to had DMX (a music service) and, quite amazingly, they had a separate receiver for the back room where all the weights were. So the big room with the machines and cardio equipment got stuck with the thumpy dance music that is usually on in gyms, and we got to tune to the alternative, rock, or metal stations in the back. I'd die without my DAP now since my Bally's usually has pretty bad music going.
post #25 of 26
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Originally Posted by bungle
My bad
I think it's just a percentage game. I think they probably try to make them fairly shock resistant, but it just takes that one lucky bump... With a flash player the probability is so near zero it really doesn't matter. Personally, regardless of durability, I can't see how people stand to have a big hard drive player strapped to their arm while working out.
Sure solid-state is definitely best when mobility is an issue (and its cheap enough now for mass market, years back, 4GB of flash memory would have been literally thousands of dollars, on another site note, I read that Google stores things right to flash before backup!).

Anyway, yea, it probably is a percentage game. I'm just stating that the game these days ain't that bad...
post #26 of 26
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Originally Posted by timmins
pre 2000, people used to workout with CD players. We've become sooo spoiled.
Dunno about you, but I used cassette players and minidisc players to workout before I moved to flash MP3 players. It never even crossed my mind to use a half foot wide spinning platter for jogging, no matter how cheap they were. Just seemed too obvious to me the risk and the futility of it.
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