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post #991 of 36844
They really are comfy, and sleek full sized phones. I like them a lot too!
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Originally Posted by fenixdown110 View Post
Glad to see you like them. I went through the same thing the first time I put them on my head too.
you know, they were nice when i first put them on, but now that my tubes and hps are broken in.... sometimes i listen to certain songs and say "wow... thats what im talking about".
post #993 of 36844
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Originally Posted by debitsohn View Post
you know, they were nice when i first put them on, but now that my tubes and hps are broken in.... sometimes i listen to certain songs and say "wow... thats what im talking about".
How do you like the tubes? I'm having second thoughts with a tube amp. I may decide on a SS amp. I'm currently on a SS amp anyways. I like how clear and accurate the bass is. I'm afraid going to a tube amp will change it completely. Or maybe I should skip the amp and save up to upgrade to the balanced Matrix DAC amp.
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Veil?

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Originally Posted by zombi View Post
Wow, so my HD650s came in today. First off I saw the box and thought 'Why do companies like Senn and Grado put their headphones in such crappy boxes?' then I pulled out the actual box from the corrugated cardboard, lol, issue solved.
But as for sound holy smokes these things fill out like the sr325i just arent capable of. Really great soundstage and the smoothness of everything is such a welcomed relief from the grado sr325i aggressive uppermids and highs.

Everything now has a place and the guitars/vocals/snare drums arent competing and producing a slightly harsh byproduct. Also, I sense a slightly different approach to the high end, which I can assume is the veil that is always mentioned, but notice enhanced upper detail compared to the grado 325i. So in the end its not an issue at all, but a pleasant plus.

Oh and the filled out bass and lower mids, good god theyre amazing! Overall Ive got to say I think they have surpassed my grados (and Ive been a long time grado guy). Still love the grados but theyre just a notch below the senns in this case, though sometimes you just want that aggressive/fun sound. Cant wait for the burn in to enhance (seriously these things sound great as is!).

PS: Coming from the grado bowls, these things are like pillows on my head
I don't really hear a veil on mine...I think that was really linked to the older version of the HD650s...the newer silver/gray ones don't seemed veiled to me at all.
post #995 of 36844
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Originally Posted by fenixdown110 View Post
How do you like the tubes? I'm having second thoughts with a tube amp. I may decide on a SS amp. I'm currently on a SS amp anyways. I like how clear and accurate the bass is. I'm afraid going to a tube amp will change it completely. Or maybe I should skip the amp and save up to upgrade to the balanced Matrix DAC amp.
They sound wonderfully rich with tubes. I've listened to them with both and prefer the warmer/lush sound through tube amps.
post #996 of 36844
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Originally Posted by fenixdown110 View Post
How do you like the tubes? I'm having second thoughts with a tube amp. I may decide on a SS amp. I'm currently on a SS amp anyways. I like how clear and accurate the bass is. I'm afraid going to a tube amp will change it completely. Or maybe I should skip the amp and save up to upgrade to the balanced Matrix DAC amp.
well i have nothing to compare them to, but i would say it... makes the music more warm. i woudlnt even know how to describe how that is. more full? i dont know audio terminology that well. wouldnt a ss amp with the hd650 be too analytical? im not sure if thats even correct but i feel it would bring out errors in recording and such a lot more than a tube amp.
if you were around me id let u borrow mine but shipping it is worrisome and expensive. if u do go tube let it burn in.
post #997 of 36844
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Originally Posted by debitsohn View Post
well i have nothing to compare them to, but i would say it... makes the music more warm. i woudlnt even know how to describe how that is. more full? i dont know audio terminology that well. wouldnt a ss amp with the hd650 be too analytical? im not sure if thats even correct but i feel it would bring out errors in recording and such a lot more than a tube amp.
if you were around me id let u borrow mine but shipping it is worrisome and expensive. if u do go tube let it burn in.
My favorite amp with the HD650 is an all-discrete SS amp: the Purity Audio KICAS Caliente. It does not sound too analytical with the HD650 - the fullness, richness and warmth are all there, along with plenty of passion and emotion when it is being expressed in the music. Its strength (especially with the HD650) is to provide fineness in the sound. Since the display of fine musical elements is a strength of the HD650, an amp which provides those elements well is a good mate for it. I also have used a maxxed-out PPA, a well-appointed M^3 and a Mapletree Ear+ HD tube amp with the HD650. I have very much enjoyed each of these amps with the HD650 (and I have posted so). The KICAS Caliente, to my ear, exceeds them all in providing to the HD650 everything that it displays particularly well and everything it needs in abundance to display them at their best - making for an exceptional overall listening experience.
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
They sound wonderfully rich with tubes. I've listened to them with both and prefer the warmer/lush sound through tube amps.
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Originally Posted by debitsohn View Post
well i have nothing to compare them to, but i would say it... makes the music more warm. i woudlnt even know how to describe how that is. more full? i dont know audio terminology that well. wouldnt a ss amp with the hd650 be too analytical? im not sure if thats even correct but i feel it would bring out errors in recording and such a lot more than a tube amp.
if you were around me id let u borrow mine but shipping it is worrisome and expensive. if u do go tube let it burn in.
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Originally Posted by sbulack View Post
My favorite amp with the HD650 is an all-discrete SS amp: the Purity Audio KICAS Caliente. It does not sound too analytical with the HD650 - the fullness, richness and warmth are all there, along with plenty of passion and emotion when it is being expressed in the music. Its strength (especially with the HD650) is to provide fineness in the sound. Since the display of fine musical elements is a strength of the HD650, an amp which provides those elements well is a good mate for it. I also have used a maxxed-out PPA, a well-appointed M^3 and a Mapletree Ear+ HD tube amp with the HD650. I have very much enjoyed each of these amps with the HD650 (and I have posted so). The KICAS Caliente, to my ear, exceeds them all in providing to the HD650 everything that it displays particularly well and everything it needs in abundance to display them at their best - making for an exceptional overall listening experience.
Good points on both types. I think I'm leaning toward what sbulack says. I've heard really good things about the KICAS Caliente.
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f5/rev...-kicas-329643/

But damn... 400 bucks. I guess I'll have to put this on hold for now.
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Waiting a year...

Time flies. I bought some HD650s just over a year ago, and have hardly used them. Mostly because I knew I had to get an amp to really get the most out of them, and due to having some HD595s too.

Well finally, that time has come, and today a wonderful Meier Audio Cantate arrived from Jan in Germany. Plugged into the MacPro I am now starting the proper headfi journey.

First impressions are great, although the HD650s are not as comfy as the HD595 I have been using for the past year. (They seem pretty tight on the head).

Looking forward to enjoying them!

Best,

Jon
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Actually I think you began the "proper" Head-Fi journey with the 595s, which are excellent. As for the 650s, you'll find that clamping goes away over a few weeks and they become one of the most comfortable headphones on the market.
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A very good point! Will be interesting to try them vs. the 650s and using the D4.
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I've been thinking about these phones for the last couple of days. I've had the HD595's and 555's in the past but ended up selling them. I found the 555's too dull and the 595's too sibilant/harsh. I've always had a pair of Denon D5000's which I did love but had to sell for the money, and they were sometimes a little too sibilant.

Recently I've been looking at the D2000's as a downgraded replacement for the D5K's, but for some reason I've been looking at the 650's.

Just how different are they to the 555/595's? How is the bass/warmth compared to the D2/5ks, if anyone knows?

Or should I just save up for the D5K's again...one day...
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Originally Posted by Crackerman View Post
I've had the HD595's and 555's in the past but ended up selling them. I found the 555's too dull and the 595's too sibilant/harsh. I've always had a pair of Denon D5000's which I did love but had to sell for the money, and they were sometimes a little too sibilant.
Not sure why you would find the 555 too dull and the 595 too sibilant when they use the same drivers and sound, to my ears, remarkably similar. I would describe both as admirably neutral. As for the D5000, I have the D2000 which is supposed to be less bright than the D5000 and I find that TOO bright for me--certainly much brighter than the 595. IOW, if you found the 595 too bright, you should have found the D5000 unbearable painful, but that clearly wasn't the case. Unless our ideas of "bright" are quite different.
post #1004 of 36844
After receiving HD650 and using it for four days with Ibasso D10 it has finally opened up, I am loving it, thought I need proper amp, now I can finally enjoy Ambient music....
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Love the HD-650s. Unfortunately mine are currently on a UPS truck for Old Lyme, Conn., where they hopefully will be promptly repaired and returned to me (lost the left channel swapping cables). In the meantime, I'm making do with my Grado SR-60s, which I have to say still sound really good to me. Very lively and engaging headphone. Which has me thinking I could stand a complementary pair of headphones on par with the HD-650. Maybe go a little higher up the Grado line? Or would closed cans be a better choice, if only for those times when I need to block out household noise?

What are you all using when you're not using your HD-650s?
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