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post #9301 of 20061

I read earlier in this thread (or maybe another thread) that there are versions that have black drivers as seen through the grills...those are the old versions apparently darker sounding with less bass. And then there are the silver drivers as seen through the grills which are apparently the new, (better sounding?) version of HD650. Others could confirm this...

 

 

I have the silver version and the highs can get up there on rare occasions, such as music with violins, but not even remotely close to the highs as my K702 or K550...and the it definitely doesn't lack bass.

 

edit: I'm also curious if the black driver version is more susceptible to the veil effect, because I have yet to notice it, except on really poorly recorded/encoded MP3 files


Edited by dxanex - 12/8/12 at 10:30am
post #9302 of 20061

I hear no lack of bass or "mid bass hump" so often talked about. I'd call the treble on my newer pair "energetic" but never bright or silibant. 

post #9303 of 20061
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

Oh how I would LOVE to hear the hd650 and a quality balanced amp like the mojo.  Maybe it wouldn't make the kind of difference that I imagine, but it's certainly something that I need to audition in the near future. 

The Mjolnir smashed a lot of preconceptions I had about amps not making a major difference. It makes a huge difference between the Lyr for the LCD2. I've seen plenty of people spend more than the Mjolnir on a Lyr+tubes. I think it would make a real difference on the HD650 too. You should really hop in your car and drive up for the DC meet next Saturday.
post #9304 of 20061

Would love to if I could bear the 10 to 11 hour drive!! redface.gif

post #9305 of 20061

my hd 800 are gathering dust right now. i got started in the hobby courtesy of the hd 650. they were my first pair of high end cans back in the spring of 2011. i have bought many cans since, but they are still my favorites. i have also heard a ton of other cans but i still prefer the hd 650 overall.

 

i drive them with a schiit lyr.

 

i d'ont find them slow at all. but they like a good dose of amplification. such a creamy and juicy bottom end to them with a hint of darkness. they are marvelous headphones. and they fit me like a glove. they are also my favorites by a long shot in term of wearing comfort.

post #9306 of 20061

You can buy the hd650 and a good amp and be done...really. 

post #9307 of 20061

I recently got my 650's, driving them with HiSound Studio V Anniversary, definitely not as high end a source as some of the amp/dac's I read about here (lusting after a Lyr...), but does drive them with no problem. I've been in a Power Pop phase/obscession recently (probably older than most posting-listening to Fountains of Wayne and Aimee Mann almost all the time, take a Wilco or a jazz break here and there), and, while there is certainy much happening in the mids, The music doesn't work if it doesn't have drive (especially FOW). Not only don't I find them slow, I find the need to dance when playing the music through them, not something that happens with many headphones. I also don't find the highs a problem (the JVC HFX500 have more energy, sometimes sibilance/harshness), and the resolving power, bass, rhythm, beautiful midrange (audiophile magazines always say 'most music residdes in the midrange') make these a keeper.

post #9308 of 20061

I actually do like the JVC's I mentioned, do many things great, are light and cost about $70, so judge accordingly, but the Senn's have  it over them, as they should.

post #9309 of 20061

that should be JVC HA-S500, the over the ear phone, sorry

post #9310 of 20061

thanks guys, i guess il be looking for a black "mesh"..

are there any other sennheisers with the similar "dark" treble? or is it unique to the old 650s?

post #9311 of 20061
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Originally Posted by wavid View Post

thanks guys, i guess il be looking for a black "mesh"..

are there any other sennheisers with the similar "dark" treble? or is it unique to the old 650s?

 

You could just use an EQ, the HD 580/600 are similar. 

 

Now I have a question. Does anyone know if these would fit because I reeeeeally don't want to spend $60 on a new pair of ear pads:

 

http://store.sennheiserusa.com/store/sennheis/en_US/pd/ThemeID.10315700/productID.249254800

 

They look suspiciously similar to HD 650 ear pads. 

post #9312 of 20061

Someone posted a list of some of Sennheiser's replacement parts on the deals thread.

 

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HD600 Driver = $62.95 each

HD650 Driver = $44.xx each

 

HD600 grill cover = $12 each

HD650 grill cover = $42 each

 

HD600 headband assembly $77.xx  part no. 059570

HD650 headband assembly $98.13 part no. 549347

 

Does anyone know why the costs are so different? The grill covers look the same to me on both headphones besides the color. And did they just figure out an easier way to manufacture the drivers for the HD650's, or is the quality of the HD600 drivers actually better?
 

post #9313 of 20061
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Originally Posted by Tsujigiri View Post

Someone posted a list of some of Sennheiser's replacement parts on the deals thread.

 

Does anyone know why the costs are so different? The grill covers look the same to me on both headphones besides the color. And did they just figure out an easier way to manufacture the drivers for the HD650's, or is the quality of the HD600 drivers actually better?
 

According to the measurements at innerfidelity they have very similar performance so I guess they just make the HD 650 drivers more cheaply. The HD 650 grills are stronger FWIR. . . 

post #9314 of 20061
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Originally Posted by Satellite_6 View Post

According to the measurements at innerfidelity they have very similar performance so I guess they just make the HD 650 drivers more cheaply. The HD 650 grills are stronger FWIR. . . 


I never could understand why they claim the HD-650 grills are stronger. Press down to hard and they dent! You have to remove the grill to fix it. I only know this because I accidentally pressed down on them when replacing pads once. It's an easy fix though.

 

BTW has anyone tried HD-600 grills on their HD-650? I'll have to try this sometime. I wonder if there is any sound difference. Highly unlikely since they look so similar.

post #9315 of 20061
So, I'm currently in the honeymoon period with my 650s. I've had them for 5 days now and man, I've found the end game headphone until I'm willing to spend an equal amount on headphone gear as I did on my car. Going from 880/600's sure, the sound stage is smaller, highs are quite as sparkly, not as neutral etc but what really sets the 650s apart is how real the instruments sound. Maybe this is what's meant by the term detail? Instruments and drums have force to them and sound as though they are being played in my ear. The vocals/mids are present but never seem loud or harsh, it's a weird thing actually but freaking lovely. I'm glad I finally gave them a shot, the "veil" was my biggest concern but I really have no idea what all the fuss is about...theres plenty there to the highs, but enough missing so that they don't fatigue the the heck out of you.

Sincerely,

Another happy 650 owner.
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