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post #8506 of 20526

 i listen to 128 kbps mixes as well as any other format. doesnt matter to me. sounds awesome  :P

post #8507 of 20526
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Originally Posted by Mcberto View Post

Loving my HD650's with RSA's The Intruder and odac right now! :D

Doesn't the Intruder have a dac internally? is it not as good as the ODAC? 

post #8508 of 20526

The dac is not as good imo. limited to 16bit also.

post #8509 of 20526

I am considering the JDLabs C421 Black Edition for pairing with my 650's and a Asus STX. Do you think this is a good combination? Would it also be suitable for connecting through my Yamaha RX-Z7 ? I am surprised not all Amps have a Toslink Input these days!

post #8510 of 20526

Also I'd be keen on information as to where I can find replacement air cushions cost effectively. The RRP seems crazy expensive.

post #8511 of 20526
Just wanted to discuss the fabled sennheiser "veil" that we hear so much about.

I personally hear a recessed sound from my HD 650s that add a feel of distance to the music and pairs pretty well with the large soundstage to create a very open experience. I think this is what is being confused with a veil.

What are your thoughts?
post #8512 of 20526
I agree RawDawg....Soundstage could easily be perceived as veiled. I love these cans!
post #8513 of 20526
Im beginning to hear why people would think they are veiled. However, I'd label it as THICK, not veiled. Other cans, like Beyers are very airy, but thinner. The sound on the HD650 is very full and thick, so airyness isnt as easily perceived.

It does take getting used to, and treble is dulled just a bit. Its a very pleasant sounding headphone. Not terribly exciting for things like metal, but for vocal tracks, the HD650 is lovely.
post #8514 of 20526

Hi guys, i am new here but i've spent hundred of pages and multiple threads on head-fi before i decided on a new pair... then it all concluding into new, shiny pair of HD650 :D, because i'm new to this audiophile world forgive me if i use incorrect word/jargon and please move/remove this post if its not in correct place

 

so here's the story

 

got my HD650 2 days ago, massive leap from my Plantronic Gamecom 777. But why i didn't see lightyears leap in listening experience? i run it without amp and only come from D2X soundcard in my PC. The HD650 gives more 'space' or soundstage when i read it here its very immersive but sometimes its bit flat, which i suspect come from the recording because it said the HD650 reveal the true nature of the recording if i remember correctly so the sound in my plantronic come from the colouring in the headset? but all over all i decide i need amp, good one

 

so today i got to store, search for Fiio e17, since its the most common word associated with HD650 when searching 'best amp for hd650' in the search bar. the clerk said its not powerful enough and (no offence just what i heard) people believe e17 will drive almost anything. he gives me meier audio corda2stepdance, i hear some improvements, just not enough to wow me. Then he showed me the matrix: m-stage which did the job, amazing amp and gives more depth. anyone have any experience with both this amp? will want to know if you guys have better amp with similar price. really want to unlock this caged beast of a can or this sleeping dragon... or sleeping bear.... 

post #8515 of 20526
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Originally Posted by Viciel View Post

Hi guys, i am new here but i've spent hundred of pages and multiple threads on head-fi before i decided on a new pair... then it all concluding into new, shiny pair of HD650 biggrin.gif, because i'm new to this audiophile world forgive me if i use incorrect word/jargon and please move/remove this post if its not in correct place

so here's the story

got my HD650 2 days ago, massive leap from my Plantronic Gamecom 777. But why i didn't see lightyears leap in listening experience? i run it without amp and only come from D2X soundcard in my PC. The HD650 gives more 'space' or soundstage when i read it here its very immersive but sometimes its bit flat, which i suspect come from the recording because it said the HD650 reveal the true nature of the recording if i remember correctly so the sound in my plantronic come from the colouring in the headset? but all over all i decide i need amp, good one

so today i got to store, search for Fiio e17, since its the most common word associated with HD650 when searching 'best amp for hd650' in the search bar. the clerk said its not powerful enough and (no offence just what i heard) people believe e17 will drive almost anything. he gives me meier audio corda2stepdance, i hear some improvements, just not enough to wow me. Then he showed me the matrix: m-stage which did the job, amazing amp and gives more depth. anyone have any experience with both this amp? will want to know if you guys have better amp with similar price. really want to unlock this caged beast of a can or this sleeping dragon... or sleeping bear.... 
In regards to why you don't h a huge leap in your listening experience; most people feel that when they get new headphones they should be completely blown away and shocked at how good they sound, but in reality, sometimes that is not a good thing. If you are shocked by the sound, that means it is something you aren't accustomed to, and if it is that far off of what you normally hear, it may not be a good thing. You should be hearing an improvement in every aspect such as the clarity, detail retrieval, soundstage and etc., but don't expect to be "wowed" completely, despite what people tell you. People on this forum tend to exaggerate marginal differences, and although the 650 is an enormous leap from your plantronics headset, it shouldn't surprise you every time you put it on, it should just sound good, really good.

As to the e17, i didn't feel like it drove the 650 well. It just doesn't have enough power, and i think a lot of people agree with me on that. If you are on a tight budget, the fiio e09k or o2 would be better options to consider. I haven't really heard anything about the matrix, however, so maybe someone will chime in about that. If you are a diy'er, the bottlehead crack is known to be an amazing pairing with the 650, and i believe it is around 250 dollars, and if you are willing to stretch your budget even more, the schiit valhalla can be had for ~300 on the fs forum here. Although, if you are not familiar with diy'ing, you may want to just get the valhalla since the equipment you would need to build the crack would be costly.
Edited by jwusoccer - 11/7/12 at 10:07pm
post #8516 of 20526
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Originally Posted by h4mm3r 0f th0r View Post

how are the hd650s with a fiio e9 and an asus xonar essence st's speaker output??

i am using this setup... so is it okay??

post #8517 of 20526
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Originally Posted by Viciel View Post

Hi guys, i am new here but i've spent hundred of pages and multiple threads on head-fi before i decided on a new pair... then it all concluding into new, shiny pair of HD650 :D, because i'm new to this audiophile world forgive me if i use incorrect word/jargon and please move/remove this post if its not in correct place

 

so here's the story

 

got my HD650 2 days ago, massive leap from my Plantronic Gamecom 777. But why i didn't see lightyears leap in listening experience? i run it without amp and only come from D2X soundcard in my PC. The HD650 gives more 'space' or soundstage when i read it here its very immersive but sometimes its bit flat, which i suspect come from the recording because it said the HD650 reveal the true nature of the recording if i remember correctly so the sound in my plantronic come from the colouring in the headset? but all over all i decide i need amp, good one

 

so today i got to store, search for Fiio e17, since its the most common word associated with HD650 when searching 'best amp for hd650' in the search bar. the clerk said its not powerful enough and (no offence just what i heard) people believe e17 will drive almost anything. he gives me meier audio corda2stepdance, i hear some improvements, just not enough to wow me. Then he showed me the matrix: m-stage which did the job, amazing amp and gives more depth. anyone have any experience with both this amp? will want to know if you guys have better amp with similar price. really want to unlock this caged beast of a can or this sleeping dragon... or sleeping bear.... 

I bought the E17 and it doesn't drive the hd650's well enough but its handy for lower impedance headphones plus it has a DAC function which with the fiio L7 gives it a line out so Ive kept it around, they became more alive with the Objective 2 which is what Im using for now its also a very transparent amp that doesn't add or take anything away so Im going to stick with for a while as funds are a bit tight at the moment. The Matrix M stage is something on my list to consider in the future its basically a Chinese clone of Lehman audio cude linear which normally retails for £700+ ive read quite a lot of reviews on this site that say it pairs well with the hd650's also I believe its quite easy to change the op-amps and there are some better ones available as a optional extra.


Edited by fuzzy1969 - 11/8/12 at 1:23am
post #8518 of 20526
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Originally Posted by fuzzy1969 View Post

I bought the E17 and it doesn't drive the hd650's well enough but its handy for lower impedance headphones plus it has a DAC function which with the fiio L7 gives it a line out so Ive kept it around, they became more alive with the Objective 2 which is what Im using for now its also a very transparent amp that doesn't add or take anything away so Im going to stick with for a while as funds are a bit tight at the moment. The Matrix M stage is something on my list to consider in the future its basically a Chinese clone of Lehman audio cude linear which normally retails for £700+ ive read quite a lot of reviews on this site that say it pairs well with the hd650's also I believe its quite easy to change the op-amps and there are some better ones available as a optional extra.

yeah he said something like this or Lehman Rhinelander (i'm not sure which one he exaclty mention) but he said i basically get $1200 amp with the price of $300 and he even provided DAC pair of it. amazing price and the sound quality just wow

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Originally Posted by jwusoccer View Post


In regards to why you don't h a huge leap in your listening experience; most people feel that when they get new headphones they should be completely blown away and shocked at how good they sound, but in reality, sometimes that is not a good thing. If you are shocked by the sound, that means it is something you aren't accustomed to, and if it is that far off of what you normally hear, it may not be a good thing. You should be hearing an improvement in every aspect such as the clarity, detail retrieval, soundstage and etc., but don't expect to be "wowed" completely, despite what people tell you. People on this forum tend to exaggerate marginal differences, and although the 650 is an enormous leap from your plantronics headset, it shouldn't surprise you every time you put it on, it should just sound good, really good.
As to the e17, i didn't feel like it drove the 650 well. It just doesn't have enough power, and i think a lot of people agree with me on that. If you are on a tight budget, the fiio e09k or o2 would be better options to consider. I haven't really heard anything about the matrix, however, so maybe someone will chime in about that. If you are a diy'er, the bottlehead crack is known to be an amazing pairing with the 650, and i believe it is around 250 dollars, and if you are willing to stretch your budget even more, the schiit valhalla can be had for ~300 on the fs forum here. Although, if you are not familiar with diy'ing, you may want to just get the valhalla since the equipment you would need to build the crack would be costly.

i might want to try the schiit valhalla, hear a lot of that here and it seems have a very good reputation, thanx a lot

 

is there actually a portable amp that can drive the HD650 fully? or its just too much? and i'm not talking about borderline here but really properly fully like dedicated amp

post #8519 of 20526

The Objective2 drives it well and is portable'ish(bit big) it performs better when plugged into the mains but a desktop amp would be better, i cant really comment as I've only got as far as the O2 and there is'nt really anywhere where i live to audition stuff. The Schit Lyr seems to be a popular choice on this thread at the moment.


Edited by fuzzy1969 - 11/8/12 at 2:44am
post #8520 of 20526

nwavguy who designed the Objective2 has a pair of hd650's so it was one of his goals that it drives them well.

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