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post #8056 of 20010
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Originally Posted by RushNerd View Post

Assuming you got a chance to try the 650's on an asgard and the other amps you mentioned, what do you think of the 650/asgard combo?

I think Asgard + HD650 is a pretty good match, though there are obviously better.

Overall though the Asgard was too polite for my taste. Meaning, just not enough details,

 

I easily prefer it over something comparable such as the O2, which is just too harsh,

Asgard is smooth and can drive most headphones.

post #8057 of 20010
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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post

I think Asgard + HD650 is a pretty good match, though there are obviously better.

Overall though the Asgard was too polite for my taste. Meaning, just not enough details,

 

I easily prefer it over something comparable such as the O2, which is just too harsh,

Asgard is smooth and can drive most headphones.

From what Matt says about the Lyr, and other about the crack, I assume there is a observable difference in sound using the tubes over this. Not sure tubes are the choice for my HE-400s though, different ballgame.

post #8058 of 20010
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Originally Posted by RushNerd View Post

From what Matt says about the Lyr, and other about the crack, I assume there is a observable difference in sound using the tubes over this. Not sure tubes are the choice for my HE-400s though, different ballgame.

Well, there is, but can you tell the difference, idk. What I mean, there have been plenty of people who complain about

not being able to distinguish differences in tubes for the Lyr. 

 

I wouldn't say it's really a different ballgame, IMO, the HE-400 is a little different though. It has a dark tone, but has peaky treble,

this is of course, my subjective experience with the headphone. But I think the Lyr is a great fit for the HE-400. It boils down

to your preferences though. Plus, tube rolling can get pricey. And IMO, if you handcuff yourself with a budget...while still being

able to enjoy the experience, you definitely wouldn't be optimizing the potential the Lyr holds.

post #8059 of 20010

A very kind fellow headfier, just loaned me 1/2 dozen sets of tubes to try out. I have been only through two so far. Been stuck on the second set that I tried and just can't get off them. Fantastic. And a nice improvement over my stock tubes. I'd conservatively say that they are 15-20% better across the spectrum. Smoother mids and better bass response. I can absolutely appreciate and hear the difference. 

 

Yes, tube rolling can be expensive but I just bought four sets of tubes for $45 shipped. One of which happen to be the very pair that I like so much from my audition today. I feel it was a reasonable investment. 

post #8060 of 20010
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Originally Posted by amandarae View Post

Do you use a fully balance DAC or single ended then an adaptor for the SPL?  I look it up(SPL) and I see only balance inputs.  Thanks!

 

The Audiolab 8200CD is my DAC, and the Auditor isn't a trully balanced amp as it accepts XLR input only, however the headphone jack is single ended. I think I will eventually try a fully balanced amp, but I hear many comments suggesting that there is very little difference with a fully balanced setup. Who knows, I certainly don't. I should try to get some pictures up, but when I see all these yummy setups it makes me shy. What the hell, I'll do it.

post #8061 of 20010
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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post

The crack is really good with dyamics, but the Lyr is overall the better amp, IMO.

And +1 on this thread being hard to follow. It's always a fun read when you neglect this thread for a week and you have 60 pages to sort through.
The Lyr is an awesome amp, can't say I miss it much, but I did appreciate it and still do. Best tube amp/hybrid under $1k.
+1 on the Asgard being a PITA because of heat, I was actually surprised by how hot that sucker got, More surprised by how cooler
the Mjolnir runs than it.

The Crack and Lyr are both really satisfying amps though, they just have different purposes.
Hmmm, I'm starting to wonder if should get the lyr so I can be futureproof if I upgrade to something like the LCD 2s later on
post #8062 of 20010
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Originally Posted by jwusoccer View Post


Hmmm, I'm starting to wonder if should get the lyr so I can be futureproof if I upgrade to something like the LCD 2s later on

The Lyr is really great for orthos, better than any amps aforementioned. So yea, that might be a good idea.

post #8063 of 20010
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

A very kind fellow headfier, just loaned me 1/2 dozen sets of tubes to try out. I have been only through two so far. Been stuck on the second set that I tried and just can't get off them. Fantastic. And a nice improvement over my stock tubes. I'd conservatively say that they are 15-20% better across the spectrum. Smoother mids and better bass response. I can absolutely appreciate and hear the difference. 

Yes, tube rolling can be expensive but I just bought four sets of tubes for $45 shipped. One of which happen to be the very pair that I like so much from my audition today. I feel it was a reasonable investment. 

What tubes are you loving and what did they replace?

I'm waiting on my Crack kit to arrive and will look into tubes next.

On a different topic, I heard that the Bifrost can be a little artificial sounding. Anyone found this? I'm really happy with my Audio-gd NFB-5.2, but like the look of the Bifrost.
post #8064 of 20010
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Originally Posted by Eargasmo View Post

Considering you have both the crack and the WA2, you are the perfect person to ask.  Which do you prefer.  can you do a small comparison when paired with the HD650?  Those are two of the tube amps I'm considering adding to my stable.
They both sound great with the HD650s. In my configuration the Crack is more euphonic, the WA2 has a larger soundstage.

Crack/Speedball: Tung Sol 5998, electro-harmonix 12AU7
WA2: Tung Sol 5998, Mullard CV2492, Telefunken EZ80
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Originally Posted by captouch View Post

Very nice looking. I'm thinking about painting my transformer cover black. Did you have to do any prep work?

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Originally Posted by jwusoccer View Post

Hmmm, I'm starting to wonder if should get the lyr so I can be futureproof if I upgrade to something like the LCD 2s later on
OTL amps are great but they do lock you into certain cans, one reason why I went HD650 instead of LCD-2 as a compliment to the HD800s. I haven't heard the Lyr pairing but it would give you more options down the road.
post #8065 of 20010
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Originally Posted by Eargasmo View Post

Considering you have both the crack and the WA2, you are the perfect person to ask.  Which do you prefer.  can you do a small comparison when paired with the HD650?  Those are two of the tube amps I'm considering adding to my stable.

 

You're not asking me but I have both as well. As said the WA2 has the better soundstage but I prefer it on the Crack and even more on the 339.

In fact, the best combo is using the WA2 as pre amp with the 339/Crack. I especially love the WA2 as a pre amp but with good tubes (took me a while to get the sound I like) it's very nice!

 

Btw the LCD2 on the WA2 with 5998/2399 is pretty nice as well. (But I do prefer it on the Violectric V200)


Edited by Ultrainferno - 10/4/12 at 2:06am
post #8066 of 20010
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Originally Posted by Ultrainferno View Post

 

You're not asking me but I have both as well. As said the WA2 has the better soundstage but I prefer it on the Crack and even more on the 339.

In fact, the best combo is using the WA2 as pre amp with the 339/Crack. I especially love the WA2 as a pre amp but with good tubes (took me a while to get the sound I like) it's very nice!

 

Btw the LCD2 on the WA2 with 5998/2399 is pretty nice as well. (But I do prefer it on the Violectric V200)

It really is incredible such a simple kit can compete with the likes of the WA2.  Boggles my mind.  And considering the artistry that can be achieved with a little stain and spray paint...becoming more and more enticing.  The natural wood look with the naked aluminum just wasn't doing it for me.  Natural wood finish is so 1990s.

post #8067 of 20010
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Originally Posted by Eargasmo View Post

It really is incredible such a simple kit can compete with the likes of the WA2.  Boggles my mind.  And considering the artistry that can be achieved with a little stain and spray paint...becoming more and more enticing.  The natural wood look with the naked aluminum just wasn't doing it for me.  Natural wood finish is so 1990s.

 

The HD650 and HD700 are the best with the Crack, I don't use it for any other headphone.

Natural wood finish is so "Ikea" :D

 

This is a pic from when I was working on it:

post #8068 of 20010
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Originally Posted by Ultrainferno View Post

 

The HD650 and HD700 are the best with the Crack, I don't use it for any other headphone.

Natural wood finish is so "Ikea" :D

 

This is a pic from when I was working on it:

Did you steel brush the metal?  or did it come like that?

 

Also, what does it do to other headphones?  Because I'm not exclusive to HD650.  I like bright sounds some times as well.  But my beyers power so well of my Yamaha receiver and my Asgard, I don't need an amp for anything other than the HD650 really.  I guess I could have my HD650s perma-plugged into the crack.


Edited by Eargasmo - 10/4/12 at 6:32am
post #8069 of 20010

Looks like the Crack is as versatile in its looks as it is with its tube choices!

post #8070 of 20010
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Originally Posted by talisman42 View Post

 

I'm not very knowledgeable of the this subject, but learning every day :)  Do the benefits of amping also apply to low volume listening?

 

I'm still learning more myself, especially with how vast this hobby is.  I think even with low volume listening, you'll hear the improvements of external amplification.

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