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post #7981 of 36886
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Originally Posted by otherlives View Post

 

 

How does well does the compass power the HD650's?

I think it does well. I came from a much more expensive Darkvoice 337 and that thing with the 650s was just too warm/dark for me, almost no treble. Well, the treble just opened up to become wonderful when I switched to the Compass, and the soundstage too as the DV337 had dual volume knobs and I could never get them right and felt like I was getting improper imaging. With a good DAC the soundstage is definitely nice and open. 

 

I don't really know much about it though in terms of sonic quality and sound signature as I've only ever heard an E7 (when I had my Beyer DT770s), the Darkvoice 337 and the Compass. The E7 is a portable amp so that's out of the running, and then we have a difference of tube vs. solid state so I feel the difference was too dramatic to say what the SS is of this amp. All I know is I like it, and there's probably a lot better to be had out there though. I guess I could say it gave the 650s the treble boost/sparkle they needed to sound nice and not overly dark (veiled?). Worth the ~$200 I paid for it IMHO

The built in DAC is decent for a starter but I can definitely tell the difference in soundstage etc. vs. my PS Audio DLIII (which is a giant leap ahead at $7-800 new [and 500 used for me], mind you)

post #7982 of 36886
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Originally Posted by otherlives View Post

Interesting, I recall reading the opposite more often than not, haha. 

 

So anyone on the tube vs ss question?  And if the o2 isnt a good match, what *semi* portable amps would you guys recommend?

 

Solid state amps generally have a neutral sound signature focusing on transparency(if it's in the track you'll hear it) and accuracy.  Tube amps generally have a warmer more lush sound signature, providing an emotionally more stirring listening experience.  Tube amps aren't known generally for their accuracy and neutrality as it colors the overall sound a bit.  These aren't absolutes as there are solid state amps that aren't quite neutral and tube amps that sound quite neutral. 

 

What's your budget?

post #7983 of 36886

the audio-gd compass 2 is available now i was thinking of getting one of those in the near future.

post #7984 of 36886

as i understand it the matrix m-stage is a clone of a lehman audio black cube linear.

post #7985 of 36886
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Originally Posted by Digital-Pride View Post

 

Solid state amps generally have a neutral sound signature focusing on transparency(if it's in the track you'll hear it) and accuracy.  Tube amps generally have a warmer more lush sound signature, providing an emotionally more stirring listening experience.  Tube amps aren't known generally for their accuracy and neutrality as it colors the overall sound a bit.  These aren't absolutes as there are solid state amps that aren't quite neutral and tube amps that sound quite neutral. 

 

What's your budget?

 

Thanks,  I do understand the general idea behind the sound signatures of each amp, but was trying to ask why people prefer the tube sound signature with these cans.  I guess I will find out!

post #7986 of 36886

I'd pretty much resigned myself to the idea that my HD 650s would sit in a closet until I had the energy to sell them.  Then, a few weeks ago I tried them with another waste of money, the Burson 160...well, wouldn't you know, the two of them just sing.  So, they stay.  Colour me pleased.

post #7987 of 36886

Since I dont use a PC. for my source I run mine from the headphone jack of a Onkyo 8255 receiver. I don't know if it's just me but my 650s sound fantastic powered this way. There seems to be a good synergy between the two the source I am  using is a high end  sony dvd player. I am not sure if the onkyo has a headphone amp or pads the output of the amp but it just sounds great. 

post #7988 of 36886
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Originally Posted by peteham View Post

I'd pretty much resigned myself to the idea that my HD 650s would sit in a closet until I had the energy to sell them.  Then, a few weeks ago I tried them with another waste of money, the Burson 160...well, wouldn't you know, the two of them just sing.  So, they stay.  Colour me pleased.

where do i upvote?

post #7989 of 36886
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Originally Posted by olddtfan View Post

Since I dont use a PC. for my source I run mine from the headphone jack of a Onkyo 8255 receiver. I don't know if it's just me but my 650s sound fantastic powered this way. There seems to be a good synergy between the two the source I am  using is a high end  sony dvd player. I am not sure if the onkyo has a headphone amp or pads the output of the amp but it just sounds great. 

 

Funny, as far as receivers go I always thought Denon made for a better synergy than Onkyo....Denon is cold and sterile next to Marantz, but it's lush and warm next to Onkyo.   Though none of them match Yamaha for it's brutally cold and accurate sterility.  A crime their actual musical instruments are often guilty of as well biggrin.gif

post #7990 of 36886
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Originally Posted by peteham View Post

I'd pretty much resigned myself to the idea that my HD 650s would sit in a closet until I had the energy to sell them.  Then, a few weeks ago I tried them with another waste of money, the Burson 160...well, wouldn't you know, the two of them just sing.  So, they stay.  Colour me pleased.

I spent some time with the 160 and my 650's at my dealer and enjoyed the combo very much. No surprise you are having fun now!

post #7991 of 36886

Where is the best place to get the pads for the 650 and could the hd598 pads be interchangeable? 

post #7992 of 36886

Anyone still using LittleDot tube amps for their HD650's?

post #7993 of 36886

How is the fiio e17? Does the 650 sound 'dark/veiled' using this amp?

post #7994 of 36886
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Originally Posted by talisman42 View Post

How is the fiio e17? Does the 650 sound 'dark/veiled' using this amp?

 

Not very good. The e17 just doesn't have enough punch IMO to drive the hd650. To me it sounds weak and lifeless...

post #7995 of 36886

I have the E17.  Using it with the HD-650, it is okay but you can tell that it's a bit under powered(IMO).  I prefer the AKG Q701 using my E17.

 

The best sound I got from E17 for my HD650 is when I have optical input, LO bypass, analog Out to amp(LittleDot).  So I am using the E17 as DAC only.

 

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