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Would the 600's be a better choice for music production?

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Would the 600's be a better choice for music production?

 

I think the general consensus would be yes. 

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Originally Posted by imackler View Post

 

I think the general consensus would be yes. 

Between just the two, yes.

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So with the 650 over beyer 990, I will sacrifice soundstage over details. Gaming need is ok, since I rarely played competitive games. But for music need, I had enough crammed music with the M50. I hope that the issue is not that bad with M50...

 

No, the soundstage of the 650 is much better than the M50s. My brother bought a set of M50s and I was very surprised how shallow and tight to you the soundstage was. You will not experience that with the 650s, plus for music playback they are certainly very engaging and special in my opinion. I used the E11 to power the 650s for fun and I was surprised how decent a job it did with the load, quite respectable all things being considered, and that was just with an iPod video as the source. For the record, I also love the 880s, and I am very glad to own both headphones. Both have strengths and weaknesses, but both are very good and certainly headphones everybody should at least try once in their life. Not sure where my next headphone change will be, really interested in the Fostex TH900 as it sounds very intriguing. Anyway, you are likely to be extremely pleased with the 650s, if not sell em which is never hard to do around this place. Cheers.

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Here is a sick track to play on your 650s people. Lots of chewy texture. You can get the track from Bandcamp for $1.49 I think, or the whole album for $11.99 which is what I did and it has plenty of great material. For me, electronica is a window into just what a headphone/amp/dac combo can really do. Enjoy.

 

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I know tons of awesome electronic tracks perfect for such uses. Enjoy


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msz87, that is nuts, really like it and the visual elements as well. I hope you have heard of Phutureprimitive, if not I will 100% guarantee you will love his work. Here is a great sample. Thanks for that track, I will be looking for their material at Beatport or Bandcamp.

 

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I .. am... wowed.

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No, the soundstage of the 650 is much better than the M50s. My brother bought a set of M50s and I was very surprised how shallow and tight to you the soundstage was. You will not experience that with the 650s, plus for music playback they are certainly very engaging and special in my opinion. I used the E11 to power the 650s for fun and I was surprised how decent a job it did with the load, quite respectable all things being considered, and that was just with an iPod video as the source. For the record, I also love the 880s, and I am very glad to own both headphones. Both have strengths and weaknesses, but both are very good and certainly headphones everybody should at least try once in their life. Not sure where my next headphone change will be, really interested in the Fostex TH900 as it sounds very intriguing. Anyway, you are likely to be extremely pleased with the 650s, if not sell em which is never hard to do around this place. Cheers.


If I buy the 650, I will power it with e17 for the moment. From Headfonia, the reviewer said E17 can power it and help with the soundstage. As long as I don't get the crammed on you head feel ala m50, I'm fine. Maybe if the feels like my IE8, ok for me.

Beyer I only consider 990 pro 250, I still need bass for my music.

I live in Hongkong and its hard to sell 2nd hand goods, even if its brand new.

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Doubtful you will ever want to sell a pair of HD650's. They are very versatile and the better your gear, the better they will sound.

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Originally Posted by widdyjudas View Post


Since you have both cans, can you show me details for competitive gaming like CS? Soundstage in particular...

You are getting some really good advice on this page.  A lot of good HD650 vets with experience with the DT990 giving great information.

  

Let me load up a couple of first person shooters I have on my computer and A/B the HD650s and the DT990s.  I will give you impressions after complete.  Should take me a couple of days to complete.  I have the new Deus Ex game and the new Crysis game, and I know they were rated very high for sound/audio quality.  Gives me an excuse to finally play them.  Haven't touched them since I bought them.  I also have Borderlands, and I will test positional/directional sound using that game.  I don't have counterstrike loaded on my computer.  I have not played online fps games since counterstrike was still in beta, over 10 years ago.  But I was in a top-rated clan back then and won a couple of online tournaments.  I was a clan leader of a clan that held the top spots on OGL and a couple of other leagues.   Ah, those were some fun times.  Although I am just a casual gamer now, I do remember what I was looking for in sound when I used to play competitively.  So I think I can give you some good info when I A/B them.  Get back to you shortly.

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You are getting some really good advice on this page.  A lot of good HD650 vets with experience with the DT990 giving great information.

  

Let me load up a couple of first person shooters I have on my computer and A/B the HD650s and the DT990s.  I will give you impressions after complete.  Should take me a couple of days to complete.  I have the new Deus Ex game and the new Crysis game, and I know they were rated very high for sound/audio quality.  Gives me an excuse to finally play them.  Haven't touched them since I bought them.  I also have Borderlands, and I will test positional/directional sound using that game.  I don't have counterstrike loaded on my computer.  I have not played online fps games since counterstrike was still in beta, over 10 years ago.  But I was in a top-rated clan back then and won a couple of online tournaments.  I was a clan leader of a clan that held the top spots on OGL and a couple of other leagues.   Ah, those were some fun times.  Although I am just a casual gamer now, I do remember what I was looking for in sound when I used to play competitively.  So I think I can give you some good info when I A/B them.  Get back to you shortly.


Thanks very much eargasmo. Just take your time with the analysis, I have all the time you need. 1-2 months maybe before I decided which one.

Please analyze soundstage and detail imaging in particular. Try not to be biased...


Edited by widdyjudas - 9/27/12 at 9:28pm
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If I buy the 650, I will power it with e17 for the moment. From Headfonia, the reviewer said E17 can power it and help with the soundstage. As long as I don't get the crammed on you head feel ala m50, I'm fine. Maybe if the feels like my IE8, ok for me.

Beyer I only consider 990 pro 250, I still need bass for my music.

I live in Hongkong and its hard to sell 2nd hand goods, even if its brand new.

 

Not sure what you mean by crammed. If you mean the clamp force of HD650, new HD650's clamping force is quite hard. I clamp my HD650 on a box when I am not using it. The clamping force will greatly reduced after few weeks and it will feels very comfortable.

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Not sure what you mean by crammed. If you mean the clamp force of HD650, new HD650's clamping force is quite hard. I clamp my HD650 on a box when I am not using it. The clamping force will greatly reduced after few weeks and it will feels very comfortable.


I meant the sound is crammed together in the middle of my head. Unlike the ie8, the sound got distributed and I can get the over the head feel. Thanks to the amazing soundstage of IE8.

I found the 650 clamping acceptable, since the cup is bigger than my ear, so its still pretty comfy for me. M50 cup is smaller, so its like on my ear design. Add that with the clamp force and got discomfort after just 30-45 mins of use...

Still, the beyer 770 pro is the comfort king of all cans I tested.


Edited by widdyjudas - 9/27/12 at 9:33pm
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Ive got the fiio e17 and it does a good job with the hd650's, the objective 2 amp drives them even better and they seem to become more alive ill probably look into getting a gd-audio amp at some point.

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